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Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by vitaflo on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:06PM (#30141641)
>Even Model 3 has a physical hazard light switch.

That's because a physical hazard light switch is required by law.

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by gleenn on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:35PM (#30141940)
The irony was it took me a lot longer to find because I was searching through the computer screen for a long time assuming it was there.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by pcurve on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:52PM (#30142089)
And Tesla didn't help you by making too subtle. https://i.insider.com/5a861ac9d0307228108b466c?width=600&for...

Compared this to Hyundai cars, who I don't think gets enough credit for their ergonomics.

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2022-...

https://www.genesis.com/content/dam/genesis-p2/kr/assets/mod...

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by Syonyk on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:09PM (#30142224)
Uh. Really? On the ceiling? Or have I screwed up my perspective entirely there?

If it's actually on the ceiling, I either know it's there, or I'll be into pulsing my brakes manually before I bother to find it should I actually need it.

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by userbinator on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:53PM (#30142605)
That was my reaction too. It took me a few seconds to realise I was looking up at the dome lights, and the object half-visible in the bottom of that image is the rearview mirror. This video confirms it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBMxGdbjfo

On every other car I've been in, any switches in that location I would naturally assume are for controlling the lights right next to it, but evidently no one in Tesla's design chain thought of that...

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by pcurve on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:27PM (#30142373)
I thought old Mercedes w221 took the cake for the worst place to put hazard light switch. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/14/c2/e014c2545b5af19946c9...

But model 3 takes the cake.

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by zoomablemind on Sunday January 30, 2022 @09:24PM (#30143770)
IMO not an unreasonable placement. The button is quite recognizable and right at the fingertips, unless it's been prone to accidental presses.

The trim of the dash in the picture, as much as luxurious it may be, reminded me of driving a desk, a walnut or ?mango wood desk... sitting in a comfy four-wheeled office chair. Also notable so many buttons on the driver side door, not sure for what purpose.

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by pcurve on Sunday January 30, 2022 @11:16PM (#30144415)
Yeah I think for the car's owner, it's not a bad placement. IMHO, it would better if it were also readily visible to occasional passenger.

Mercedes did eventually fix the issue in the most recent model w223 https://car-images.bauersecure.com/pagefiles/96149/mercedes_...

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by fortysixdegrees on Sunday January 30, 2022 @10:25PM (#30144107)
W203 nailed it. I'm a hazard light trigger happy driver, and I can hit it without looking, but if you weren't used to it you would find it immediately.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZWS4sYKT0hU/maxresdefault.jpg

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by andi999 on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:09PM (#30142737)
This is bad. Maybe it is because this switch is often used in Germany (when you approach a traffic jam on the autobahn you should press it), they though after a few of these incidents one would have figured out.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by morcheeba on Sunday January 30, 2022 @08:26PM (#30143355)
At least you can find the W221 button by feel (as one does when they don't want to take their eyes off the road). The w205 one doesn't stick out at all. https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2021-mercedes-benz-c-...
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by userbinator on Sunday January 30, 2022 @08:49PM (#30143519)
That one was even harder to find because it's not centered. In that image I noticed what looks like two Chevy bowties on either side of the steering wheel, before I found the hazard light button (spoiler: it's toward the passenger side and looks almost like the other buttons in the area.)
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by pcurve on Sunday January 30, 2022 @11:20PM (#30144445)
Agreed. That one seems like an afterthought. Thankfully, the issue has been fixed in w206.