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Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by Luc on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:40AM (#30136145)
The end result is that the fact that you visited this website is passed to Google, and this can then be used for advertising purposes.
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by jstummbillig on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:53AM (#30136247)
> and this can then be used for advertising purposes.

Can it? Is this within the range what Google is allowed to do in the EU right now?

Because, if that is the case and we also wanted to stop that, wouldn't it be a lot more reasonable to just... forbid Google from doing that, instead of slapping every confused wordpress hack in the EU with a fine?

Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by Vespasian on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:17AM (#30136485)
Google cannot escape the US government agencies (CLOUD act) etc.

It doesn't matter what the promise.

They could sell their software stack to an independent European partner over whom they don't have any control and who doesn't transmit data back to the US.

Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by jstummbillig on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:22AM (#30136530)
If that was true, how does Google work within China?
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by Flocular on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:51AM (#30136736)
By sharing data until public relations make change necessary https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/11/22668734/google-user-data...
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by jstummbillig on Sunday January 30, 2022 @08:33AM (#30137028)
If China can mandate Google to do something like that and having Google submit to it, effectively escaping US jurisdiction for this part of the world, why wouldn't it work in the EU applied to a completely different set of goals?
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by Jon_Lowtek on Sunday January 30, 2022 @11:35PM (#30144520)
US jurisdiction doesn't even protect its own citizens against their government requesting data from google about them, why would it protect those of Hong Kong from their ... oh wait i get it
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by debugnik on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:44AM (#30136677)
IIRC foreign companies must form a joint venture with a Chinese one that would "own" the data and processing.
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by Vespasian on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:44AM (#30136681)
It mostly doesn't?
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by Nextgrid on Sunday January 30, 2022 @09:14AM (#30137358)
> Can it? Is this within the range what Google is allowed to do in the EU right now?

Google's current GDPR consent screen is not compliant. It provides an easy "accept" option but no easy decline option, which is against the regulation.

Given they are already breaking the law and successfully getting away with it (otherwise they'd stop), why would they not break it here?

In fact, it doesn't even have to be malicious; the data can accidentally be fed into a dataset that's used for ad targeting - maybe it was set up that way a decade ago, nobody knows about it and it isn't entirely obvious considering the entire targeting machine is a black box with thousands of parameters so it's impossible to definitely prove what data was used to target a particular ad.

Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by leobg on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:44AM (#30136180)
This is true. But the request containing that information is being sent by your own computer. It’s bit a “doing” of the website owner.
Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by brazzy on Sunday January 30, 2022 @06:55AM (#30136261)
It really depends. If the website links to a URL that is the same for everyone on every website which uses that font, then without a referrer header (which is up to the browser to send) there is not much tracking info.

But if the website uses a URL that is unique for that site, or even for each user, that is absolutely something I'd hold the website owner responsible for.

Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by leobg on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:05AM (#30136365)
Of course. Good point. If an individualized URL would be used, it would be another story.

Though I don’t think that Google Fonts URLs contain individualized parameters by default that disclose either the user’s IP address or the site visited. The ruling also does not mention that this is what happened here. All the site user did, from what I can see, is embed a Google Font.

Had the site owner put an automatic JavaScript redirect to Google on his page, he’d be just as liable, according to the logic of this ruling.

Re:GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by us... by yonixw on Sunday January 30, 2022 @07:06AM (#30136370)
The initiator as seen in F12 is the site HTML\CSS... not the browser.