Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by 5hoom on Sunday September 18, 2011 @08:19PM
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I'm sure this same story came up a while ago, but whatever.
Here's my take on the type of swearing in commits as per the story (XXXX represents swearword of your choice).
C++:
"Finally fixed it. My XXXX head hurts"
Javascript/Ruby:
"Finished adding 15 new features. I am XXXX awesome"
C:
"No time to swear, busy hacking. Oh XXXX whoops"
Java/C#:
"Wouldn't swear, unprofessional & boss is watching"
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by ObjectiveSub on Sunday September 18, 2011 @08:05PM
(#3011661)
I realize this post is a little tongue-in-cheek, however, you cannot use it to draw any meaningful statistical conclusions. This data makes no sense until you factor in the relative popularity of these languages on Github.
We don't know if PHP has little swearing because if it is a great language, or if PHP is rare on Github. Similarly, the reason Javascript and Ruby score so highly is most probably due to the fact that they are extremely popular languages on Github.
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by ObjectiveSub on Sunday September 18, 2011 @08:40PM
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I don't think it really matters. It may be that PHP developers that swear a lot don't use Github, or that Ruby developers that don't swear use Bitbucket, etc..
I wrote that at 2AM once when I was at a start-up. I'm not proud. (Well, okay, I am).
A couple years later (after the start-up had imploded) I was asked to consult to fix issues that cropped up in the code at a customer site -- they'd bought an SDK and were having problems. During a walk-through of my fixes I found myself explaining that line of code to a suit.
The suit nodded. "GUIDs. Yeah, getting those right is tricky."
[That consulting gig was sweet; short, but I was able to charge $300 an hour. I should have charged more, they basically didn't care.]
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by hannibalhorn on Sunday September 18, 2011 @08:05PM
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I'm not sure there's as much of a culture of using version control among PHP devs (they generally just upload the new version via FTP) or I'm sure it'd be much higher..
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by vbtemp on Sunday September 18, 2011 @08:46PM
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Almost all of my work is either in C or python. When I do my embedded system development in C, I generally spend my day swearing at myself and cursing the world. When I do other components in python generally thing "wow. that was easy and fast. And it's so expressive. Wow! I'm in a great mood!". It makes perfect sense to me.
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by crikli on Sunday September 18, 2011 @09:57PM
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I'm surprised at the Javascript figure. I leave a few swears in server-side script but the only people that will see that are other programmers; Javascript, anyone can read that.
That said, I've found a couple of rants in my old JS from the IE6 days that, well, if I clean them up they're not really sentences.
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by ahlatimer on Sunday September 18, 2011 @10:10PM
(#3011939)
Looks like he scanned commit messages, not comments, so the only people who could read them are people browsing Github or have access to the repo some other way.
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by ggchappell on Monday September 19, 2011 @12:53AM
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I can certainly understand the high level in C++. But Ruby vs. Python is odd. There are so many similarities in the Ruby & Python communities. The main difference seems to be that Ruby has One Framework to Rule Them All, while Python has ... various things. Maybe that has something to do with it?
Re:Data on Swearing in Programming Languages
by techdmn on Sunday September 18, 2011 @09:18PM
(#3011807)
I don't swear in comments or commit messages, but I do often catch myself quietly muttering a string of obscenities while coding. At least I hope it's quiet.
C++: "Finally fixed it. My XXXX head hurts"
Javascript/Ruby: "Finished adding 15 new features. I am XXXX awesome"
C: "No time to swear, busy hacking. Oh XXXX whoops"
Java/C#: "Wouldn't swear, unprofessional & boss is watching"
Python: "All happy, & swears are naughty"
PHP: "Whats a commit?"
(ps. Just for fun, no flamebait intended!)
It's particularly fun to pronounce allowed as if it rhymed with "ducky".
CPython's module initialization functions are particularly obnoxious about this.
A couple years later (after the start-up had imploded) I was asked to consult to fix issues that cropped up in the code at a customer site -- they'd bought an SDK and were having problems. During a walk-through of my fixes I found myself explaining that line of code to a suit.
The suit nodded. "GUIDs. Yeah, getting those right is tricky."
[That consulting gig was sweet; short, but I was able to charge $300 an hour. I should have charged more, they basically didn't care.]
That said, I've found a couple of rants in my old JS from the IE6 days that, well, if I clean them up they're not really sentences.
C code.
C code run.
Run, code, run.
Run, dammit, run!