In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist

Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by lordnacho on Friday January 28, 2022 @07:47AM (#30113900)

They are also accusations of nothing specific. "Association with China" doesn't seem like it's specific enough to warrant sanction, all it can do it make people suspicious, which it does regardless of whether you've even done anything with China.

I accept the US is having a power struggle with China at the moment, but this is not the way to win it. People who aren't actually in favor of freedom will welcome this "record who associates with China" thing, but it goes against the high ideals of the US and makes it look like many unsavory countries.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by ethanbond on Friday January 28, 2022 @08:37AM (#30114381)

Errr... pretty sure the allegation is more specific than you suggest. The allegation was that he was being paid by China and did not disclose this on grant applications.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by Aperocky on Friday January 28, 2022 @09:57AM (#30115372)

Case was closed, allegation was rejected.

Witch hunt begins when allegation holds more weight then the verdict, and when it becomes the verdict, you can say goodbye to all semblance of rule of law, which surprisingly many here will condone depending on the subject.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by ethanbond on Friday January 28, 2022 @10:52AM (#30116160)

The really, really important thing about witch hunts is that witches don’t exist. Allegations that turn out to be wrong can be really harmful, agreed there. Pretty unclear how to do anything about that without infringing on 1st Amendment rights, especially when it’s not a criminal allegation (i.e. indictments should IMO be sealed til verdict, but not all allegations are indictments).

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by eecc on Friday January 28, 2022 @02:44PM (#30119405)

Here, a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by seanmcdirmid on Saturday January 29, 2022 @12:32PM (#30128315)

Allegations can still be alleged even if they are later found to be unfounded.

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Re:In the end, you're treated like a spy, says MIT scientist by dang on Friday January 28, 2022 @12:03PM (#30117351)

Please do not take HN threads on generic ideological tangents. It leads to predictable, tedious, and nasty flamewar—the opposite of what we want here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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