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Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by lordnacho on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:07AM (#30100056)
A billion butts? Do 10M Swedes really average 100 butts chucked into the environment?

Great idea though if it works, win-win for crows and people. Maybe we'll get articles about clever crows that import butts from neighboring areas to get paid.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by onion2k on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:47AM (#30100484)
A billion butts? Do 10M Swedes really average 100 butts chucked into the environment?

I've known a few smokers who get through 40+ cigarettes a day. That's almost 15,000 a year from one person. Obviously they're not throwing all those butts on the ground, but it's certainly believable that a huge number make it into the environment.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by anfogoat on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:27AM (#30100259)
> ... win-win for crows and people.

Until after conditioning generations of swedish crows to rely on this the company gets acquired, humans die off, or the robots get shelved for some other reason. They're going to suffer the fate of Google Reader users.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by vintermann on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:50AM (#30100516)
In other words, be inconvenienced and get by with other methods?

Seriously though, there's a winter flock of crows near where I live, and I wonder how they find enough to eat. There are thousands of them. But clearly they get by, and have enough energy to fly around a lot and have huge, noisy parliamentary debates.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by colechristensen on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:08PM (#30103074)
People assume that the environment is much more sterile and empty in the winter than it really is.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by shawabawa3 on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:11AM (#30100105)
> A billion butts? Do 10M Swedes really average 100 butts chucked into the environment?

it's per year.

Roughly 10% of swedes smoke to some level. If we say half of them are only occasional smokers and the other half smoke on average 10/day, that's 1.8B/year

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by ginko on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:20AM (#30100191)
But surely Swedish smokers don't chuck 55% of their butts into the environment.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by NoboruWataya on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:11AM (#30102261)
I can't speak for Sweden, and I don't know why it happens anywhere, but a lot of smokers do inexplicably fail to see their throwing cigarette butts on the ground as littering. I know people who are not, generally speaking, assholes, and would never otherwise litter, but think nothing of doing this.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by ecdouvhr on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:50AM (#30100517)
If they're anything like Finns, they probably do. Why get the ashtray in the car dirty when you can just throw it out the window?
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by carlhjerpe on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:59AM (#30100615)
The common Swede doesn't smoke in their car, they don't even have ashtrays anymore. We stop at a car-stop and smoke, then continue driving.

I was suprised when backpacking Australia how "everyone" smoked in their car.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by grenoire on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:29AM (#30100284)
You'd be surprised, have you ever been to Paris? Swede smokers are barely any different.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by carlhjerpe on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:01AM (#30100647)
There are cultural differences, I put my smokes out and bin them, most people I know do too. Bin density is great in Sweden too, which definitely has an effect on how many butts are put into the environment.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by null_object on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:16AM (#30101523)
> There are cultural differences, I put my smokes out and bin them

There always has to be a Swede saying stuff like this.

Living in Stockholm I see THOUSANDS of cigarette butts lying around on the ground, all the time.

Reminds me of when I was walking a local street behind some Swedes and an Englishman (some sort of business group) and the English guy stepped in some dogshit and all the Swedes were like "Oh you're so unlucky because EVERYONE in Sweden picks up their dog-dirt"

To my eternal shame I didn't say anything. This street me and the kids call Bajslagsgatan (street is really called Roslagsgatan) - the approximate translation for our nickname would be DogShit Street.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by carlhjerpe on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:56AM (#30102055)
> There always has to be a Swede saying stuff like this.

That's quite racist, but since I said there are cultural differences between different places I guess so am I? There aren't many countries with as much socialism as Sweden and since it doesn't work without everyone doing their part we're proud to do it, it doesn't mean we're perfect but we try. I know no-one who wouldn't say throwing shit on the ground is bad.

> Living in Stockholm I see THOUSANDS of cigarette butts lying around on the ground, all the time.

My 1.2, 1.4 eyes must be broken then because I don't have the same experience. Outside of nightclubs and bars, yes. Near central hubs where people are in a hurry, yes. On average, no.

> Reminds me of when I was walking a local street behind some Swedes and an Englishman (some sort of business group) and the English guy stepped in some dogshit and all the Swedes were like "Oh you're so unlucky because EVERYONE in Sweden picks up their dog-dirt"

That'd be because most people do, "EVERYONE" should "NEVER" be interpreted as literally everyone, there are always people who deviate from the norm.

> To my eternal shame I didn't say anything. This street me and the kids call Bajslagsgatan (street is really called Roslagsgatan) - the approximate translation for our nickname would be DogShit Street.

You're telling me that on a street in the middle of Stockholm where there are no trees and the buildings are around 6 stories high people just let their dogs shit on the pavement and walk off? I call major bullshit. If you'd have said Vanadislunden which is nearby and has a dog-park, I'd believe you.

EDIT: Apparently there are a few trees at the end of the street crossing over to Birger Jarlsgatan (Next to Norra Real), I guess every urban dogowner let their dogs shit there.

Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by scbrg on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:00AM (#30100639)
That doesn't sound unlikely. I'd guess that most smoking occurs outdoors. Smoking is pretty much banned indoors except for in people's residences. Many smokers avoid smoking in their own homes due to the damage it does to walls and furniture. Ashtrays are uncommon outside.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by hydrok9 on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:59AM (#30102943)
is there anywhere in the world where smokers don't behave like this? It's certainly the case in Canada
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by tamaharbor on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:46PM (#30110505)
For some reason, smokers seem to think that the world is their ashtray.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by bayesian_horse on Thursday January 27, 2022 @08:35AM (#30100352)
Wouldn't be that clever. They only have one beak per bird, so travelling longer distances isn't worth the effort, or you'd have to pay them with more food. Crows can make these decisions and might decide there are easier ways to get food.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by Markoff on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:30AM (#30100986)
It depends, if they could swallow them and then vomit on purpose then their capacity would be significantly increased over one beak capacity.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by bayesian_horse on Thursday January 27, 2022 @09:55AM (#30101285)
Birds can't do that. Also they'd get nicotine poisoning. That would be a risk even if they used their goiter. And it would taste terrible.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by Markoff on Friday January 28, 2022 @04:36AM (#30112557)
Do they even have taste buds which would taste the difference. From what i know birds can't taste spiciness, so they can eat whatever habanero you give them.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by bayesian_horse on Friday January 28, 2022 @07:10AM (#30113638)
Every animal has some sense of taste and smell. It's the first brain nerve in vertebrates.
Re:Crows may soon be Sweden’s newest litter pickers by dehrmann on Thursday January 27, 2022 @01:15PM (#30103996)
I normally think of Swedes and snus, not cigarettes.