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Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by fpoling on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @06:32PM (#30079663)
And then the whole claim that keto was a diet of ancient people before the agricalture looked more like a fantasy. Modern hunter-gatherets in Africa get at least 50% percent of their calories from starchy vegetables and honey with latter supplying at least 10% of calories. This became apparent after scientists measured it rather than guessing based on earlier observations.
Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by lfuller on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @07:21PM (#30080072)
Keto was originally developed as an anti-epilepsy diet until it was picked up as a weight loss diet - it's not claimed to be any kind of historical diet. I believe you're thinking of the paleo ("paleolithic") diet.
Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by JPKab on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @06:49PM (#30079798)
Modern hunter-gatherers in AFRICA.

Do you think the Inuit, or hunter-gatherers in northern Europe or Asia were getting 50% of their calories from non-animal sources? You know the answer is absolutely not.

I don't want to get into an annoying, repetitive ideological flame war here. What I can tell you is that depending on the climate and the length of the winters, as well as the soil, tribes had vastly different diet compositions. There are numerous studies on this.

Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by fpoling on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @05:13AM (#30083732)
Ancestors of Inuits came to polar regions less then 10 thousand years ago. Yet even during this short from evolutionary perspective time frame they got a mutation that inhibited ketosis.

Even outside the polar regions to places where fruits and vegetables where not available or were very limited people came relatively recently. For example, in Mongolia it happened about 20 thousands years ago. Moreover, human population there in any substantial numbers appeared less than 10K years after domestication of animals and access to their milk. In Mongolia people living in traditional ways drink a lot of fermented horse and camel milk getting enough calories from carbohydrates to avoid a permanent keto state.

So a permanent keto state from evolutionary perspective was never sustainable.

Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by rkk3 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @06:54PM (#30079838)
I don't think that has ever been a claim of the Keto Diet, I think you are confusing it with the Paleo(lithic man) diet which is similar but distinct.
Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by beebmam on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @07:11PM (#30079996)
This reads like a cult member wrote it. It's hard to take you seriously when you (absurdly) state that some diet makes claims.
Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by rkk3 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @07:19PM (#30080065)
Uh-ok not sure why the ad hominem flame-bait, just pointing out there is another popular fad diet that makes the exact claims the GP was attributing to this popular fad diet.
Re:Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Benefits vs. Risks by MattRix on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @07:49PM (#30080251)
…uh did you respond to the wrong comment?