Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by the_lonely_road on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @11:42AM (#30073989)

Florida is a shithole? You spend too much time on the internet. Florida man is a literal meme that came about because of laws that all state collected data should be publicly available causing the media to get most of its fun crime stories from the very large population there. You realize that a large portion of the richest Americans chose to move there for their retirement? Very large swaths of southern Florida contain some of the most modern and amenity rich sections of the WORLD. Not accessible to the average citizen of course, but then again Luxembourg isn't well known for its accessibility either. We are so much more alike than we are different.

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by pavlov on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @12:18PM (#30074576)

In Florida, six-year-old children live in tents:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/florida-affordable-h...

I get it that Floridians don't want a nanny state, but this kind of thing is why the below-median lifestyle in the state looks like a shithole from a European POV.

The fact that the 1% is so well-off makes the picture look even worse.

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by jimbob45 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @12:10PM (#30074453)

I was going to write exactly this. Florida is the proverbial city on a hill for its progressive crime transparency policies. I'm tired of the ignorant fools giving it a bad name because they're going to drag down a very healthy policy with them.

I'm convinced that other states and countries try to smear Florida because they're terrified what would happen if they themselves had the bravery to commit to Florida's level of governmental transparency.

https://uwf.edu/go/legal-and-consumer-info/florida-sunshine-...

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by wbsss4412 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @01:32PM (#30075892)

How do you consider it “progressive” that Florida makes it easy to publicly shame people in the press for their transgressions?

Most of the time it’s just punching downwards.

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by jimbob45 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @02:46PM (#30077009)

I think my link above would be very helpful for you. It's not just about crime transparency, which is something that virtually every state signaled support for in 2020. It's every governmental activity including university meetings.

You know it's working because people get caught trying to circumvent it[0]. The Attorney General hates it[1]. Without it, we wouldn't know about former governor candidate Andrew Gillum being a methhead[2]. I can't confirm this but I'm fairly sure we only know about the expired COVID tests because of this law[3].

I simply encourage you to educate yourself on Florida and to understand that their openness is something to be lauded, not feared or mocked.

[0]https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/01/07/2-...

[1]https://flaglerlive.com/95717/sunshine-law-snyder/

[2]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-gillum-found-at-scene-of...

[3]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-conf...

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by wbsss4412 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @02:59PM (#30077179)

Of those, the only thing I see as being actually significantly beneficial to the public would be the story about expired Covid tests.

Knowing that a former gubernatorial candidate is/was a meth head isn’t a crowning achievement.

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by jimbob45 on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @03:29PM (#30077604)

Gillum very likely would have run this year if he hadn't been caught like that.

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Re:Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe? by boffinAudio on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @11:43AM (#30074018)

>You realize that a large portion of the richest Americans chose to move there for their retirement?

Yes of course, making it a shithole for those who didn't.

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