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Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs by maccard on Monday January 24, 2022 @05:45AM (#30055898)
> If an engineer needs that much time you have a serious technical debt for setup of your software or a inexperienced or inept engineer.

Everyone does something for the first time once. Just because someone has not set up a hypervisor before doesn't mean they're inexperienced.

> I can set up Proxmox VE as hyper visor, some container for each DBs, load balancer in front and some app in about an hour max from scratch,

And I can spin up containers + load balancer on AWS in less than five minutes. That doesn't mean that it's just an easy thing to do. (although, this specific example is).

> upfront setup and frequent maintenance is naturally something you need to price in. <...> the cloud offer may not really be your salvation and just delay the fall while costing all the more.

Agreed 100% on both counts.

Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs by tester756 on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:55AM (#30056505)
>Just because someone has not set up a hypervisor before doesn't mean they're inexperienced.

Wait, what? If you never did something, then you're unexperienced, ain't you?

Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs by BenjiWiebe on Monday January 24, 2022 @09:59AM (#30058364)
You can be an experienced $job without having ever done $one-particular-thing-related-to-job.

Experienced != Knows 100% of things.