Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs
by closeparen on Monday January 24, 2022 @04:17AM
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Perhaps for the same reason that the vast majority of the readers of this site don’t use Hetzner: they are not European and neither are their users.
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Hetzner is just an example - you can get cheap dedicated boxes with gigabit uplinks all over the world. And in this example it's not even important what latency the server has, since it was only feeding Cloudflares CDN with data.
Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs
by closeparen on Monday January 24, 2022 @01:42PM
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Can you? I have not actually been able to identify a cheap, reputable dedicated server provider in the US. Ten years ago there were a few.
The reason Europeans tend to favor European service providers generally has to do with strong data protection guarantees and some level of protection against foreign surveillance. In practice a lot of European companies still use US services or at least services provided by US companies -- Troy Hunt is Australian and uses Azure from Microsoft, so this isn't just a thing Europeans do either.
I'd love to hear your reasoning why people who aren't European would prefer to avoid European service providers.
Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs
by capableweb on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:21AM
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> I'd love to hear your reasoning why people who aren't European would prefer to avoid European service providers.
I'm generally a Hetzner fan as well for global services, but I can see the point in avoiding Hetzner (for example) if all of your users are in the US, since Hetzner only offers dedicated servers located in Europe (Germany and Finland if I'm not mistaken). Generally you want users to hit servers that are close to them, so something like Vultr would be better if the scenario mentioned before applies.
Exactly. Speed of light is too slow. Speed of light in cable is 200.000km/s, so if you are 10.000km away, your minimum ping time is 100ms (+server time).
https://www.hetzner.com/?country=us
They also have dc's in the US
Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs
by capableweb on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:55AM
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Are we talking about the same thing? I know Hetzner offers Cloud servers (VMs) in the US since recently, but I don't think they offer Dedicated Servers in the US (yet?).
You are correct.
I didn't realize it was limited to their cloud offering. Nice one!
When deploying pet projects I could not care less about privacy.
OVH then? They have similar offerings, unlimited traffic, multiple datacenters to pick from.
Re:I got pwned by my cloud costs
by capableweb on Monday January 24, 2022 @06:19AM
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I guess that's out of the question too if it's a problem that the company is European, since OVH is French.