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Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by markdown on Sunday January 23, 2022 @03:38PM (#30050199)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahindra_Tractors

FTFY.

Seriously though, the point isn't that there are alternatives, but that one should have the right to repair whatever machine they own.

Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by nimbius on Sunday January 23, 2022 @04:03PM (#30050423)
disclosure: im a diesel mechanic by trade and Mahindra's are a real treat!!

I absolutely endorse Mahindra but if youre outside TN theyre kinda hard to come by. the tractors are less reliable than more modern western designs but faster and easier to repair by far. new head seals rocker arms valve guide seals and an oil change was 6 hours of labor and i actually started to enjoy it. bolts are over-built for what you need in some cases. the gyrovator has some of the beefiest engine mounts ive come across in a long time (looking at you Western Star)

im sure every one comes with a free "you dont want that" from the usual scumbags at the dealer but if you have an engine lift you can service your own Jivo very easily from tip to tail. the only reason our shop saw one was because the owner couldnt safely work on the engine (gyrovator series) as he was 71 years old.

Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by userbinator on Sunday January 23, 2022 @04:36PM (#30050671)
less reliable than more modern western designs but faster and easier to repair by far

This sounds similar to the contrast between older and newer cars too; the older ones were designed to last with periodic scheduled maintenance, whereas newer ones are designed to have no maintenance for their "design life", after which it's difficult to repair.

Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by jacquesm on Sunday January 23, 2022 @04:14PM (#30050494)
I had a Kubota and loved it. Easy to work on, parts readily available, affordable and no more electronics than it really needed to have.

How do Kubota and Mahindra compare side-by-side?

Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by nimbius on Sunday January 23, 2022 @04:21PM (#30050545)
kubota parts were faster for us to order since theyre used in construction all over the US and theyre a little more interchangeable, but you make that difference up with mahindra because you can fix more of it in the field to begin with.
Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by jacquesm on Sunday January 23, 2022 @04:29PM (#30050612)
Thank you for answering.

I lived in a area where there were a lot of small and fairly poor farmers. I also had a machine shop. You can see where this is going: come harvest time tons of stuff that had been sitting for a year suddenly had to work 16 hours per day and predictably quite a bit of it would break in the field, usually simple stuff, bearings, shafts, welds. So once word got around that I was an ok welder with a machine shop every year a couple of farmers would find their way to my door with broken balers, older harvesters and s on. Fixing those would keep us in produce and meat for months. But I never ran into a Mahindra, though they were in use.

Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by stickfigure on Sunday January 23, 2022 @07:53PM (#30052328)
Tightening emissions rules are having an effect on this, at least here in the US. My small late-model Kubota has a diesel particulate filter and a fair bit of electronics to manage it. I've been told that if you don't follow the emissions instructions, the system will shut down and a Kubota official will have to come out to "unlock" your tractor.
Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by vvanders on Sunday January 23, 2022 @11:41PM (#30053815)
Having owned both CUT without any emissions control(1981) and a Kubota w/ DPF, I'll take the DPF every day. It's quieter, cleaner and the emissions controls are even more straightforward than other modern diesels. If you have a full DPF, you just regen it for 10-15(usually while you're working) and you're good to go.
Re:Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’ by LgWoodenBadger on Sunday January 23, 2022 @05:50PM (#30051379)
Aftermarket support. JD and Kubota are almost guaranteed to have attachments, enhancements, etc made specifically for them.

My Massey Ferguson has some offerings, but not nearly as many as those two. It’s similar for the other also-rans: New Holland, Kioti, Mahindra, RK, Bronson, and so on.