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Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by theobeers on Friday January 21, 2022 @06:27AM (#30022079)
I happen to be visiting Stockholm this week. I don't know much about their snow-clearing practices, but I've been surprised by the amount of ice that is allowed to remain on roads and walkways. The sidewalks are in fair condition—though I slipped and totally wiped out this morning (not a common occurrence for me) when I was hurrying to enter a building. What really caught my attention is the thick layer of ice on roads, including at crosswalks. It's clear that they aren't using much road salt here, if any. I guess that is probably for environmental reasons.
Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by Jensson on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:13AM (#30022376)
Salt doesn't keep roads ice free when it gets too cold, it works in warmer climates but in Sweden it gets cold enough that you will have ice patches anyway. They would stay a shorter period, but they would still be there, so cars still need winter tires so they can drive on ice anyway, so can just as well not put toxic salt on the roads.

People who slip mostly just needs better shoes/tires, the difference between good and bad shoes/tires is huge. I have biked in Sweden during the winter, no problems at all, winter tires fixes most issues.

Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by cinntaile on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:38AM (#30022584)
Salt is definitely used in Sweden as well, just not everywhere.
Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by bestest on Friday January 21, 2022 @06:51AM (#30022230)
Salt (and various substances alike) causes bad corrosion in vehicles. And quite often salt helps dissolve the snow yet what remains is a sludge, which in my opinion is much worse than a pedestrian path of packed snow. I wish more countries would choose the Scandinavian way of handling snow instead of just dumping tons of salt on the roads.
Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by veltas on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:15AM (#30022382)
And it's poisonous to dogs!
Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by tallanvor on Friday January 21, 2022 @06:42AM (#30022187)
Sadly that seems to be the norm in Scandinavia. Oslo has the same problem (although they don't even try to prioritize sidewalks). They simply plow the bulk of the snow off the sidewalks and they might lay down gravel. It leaves significant slick spots and really you're just counting down the days until you take a tumble.
Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by Filligree on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:30AM (#30022496)
There are ways to walk on that without needing to worry. If you grow up in Scandinavia, at least in the north, you might go years without so much as slipping.

On the other hand, if I had a dollar for the number of times I bruised myself as a child I'd be a rich man.

Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by 988747 on Friday January 21, 2022 @09:16AM (#30023746)
Can you share the trick? I'm slipping quite often these days :(
Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by Filligree on Friday January 21, 2022 @10:26AM (#30024791)
Get the spikes. I'm not sure there's any 'trick' that's learnable without growing up there.

Essentially it's about walking without ever putting your feet down such that they apply lateral force to the ground, however. Do that right, and it doesn't matter how slippery it is.

...and then you also can't apply force, so you can't walk. The hard part is to automatically test the ground you're standing on, ramping up the force fast enough to make progress, without thereby slipping. It's so automatic, I can't explain how or why it works. I suspect it's getting done in the spinal column, even.

Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by dalkvist on Friday January 21, 2022 @10:11AM (#30024520)
A quick workaround is to buy some spikes for your shoes.

If you are in Scandinavia most outdoor and sport shops have them.

Just remember to take then off then you go inside =)

Re:Sweden clears snow-covered walkways before roads (2018) by yxhuvud on Friday January 21, 2022 @07:37AM (#30022565)
The remains of the latest snowfall in Stockholm is worse than it usually is. Dunno how that happened, perhaps there was rain on cold streets and not just snow.