No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:41AM (#30010230)

You know, most (Americans) drink little or no alcohol. The cult of alcohol is certain they cannot live without it, which is part of the problem perhaps. But most do live without it. And are not eating bugs.

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by streblo on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:48AM (#30010340)

The NIH itself says different:

* 85.6 percent of people ages 18 and older reported that they drank alcohol at some point in their lifetime

* 69.5 percent reported that they drank in the past year

* 54.9 percent reported that they drank in the past month

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sh...

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by happytoexplain on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:54AM (#30010446)

While a little unclear on details, this seems to put the parent's assertion well within the realm of possibility. 45% of people had nothing to drink in the past month. It's therefore believable, barring additional data, that the majority of people drink at most a "little", as the parent put it. Are you interpreting this differently?

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by mindcrime on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:57AM (#30010515)

54.9 percent reported that they drank in the past month

Consider this: I am in the group that can say "they drank in the last month." It is also simultaneously true that I "drink little or no alcohol" (by any reasonable standard).

How can that be? Well, if you took my last 12 months worth of alcohol consumption and calculated my "average drinks per month" the number would round to 0. So yes, I do drink, and by happenstance it happens that I've had a drink in the last month. But I think that easily qualifies as "little or no alcohol".

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by 988747 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @11:05AM (#30010654)

This question shouldn't be asked in January (because of all those New Years Eve celebrations) :)

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by NickBusey on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:46AM (#30010311)

This sounded wrong to me, so I did a simple search. This study from the NIAA of the NIH seems to suggest what you said is incorrect. https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sh...

Most Americans do drink.

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by mindcrime on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:54AM (#30010452)

Most Americans do drink.

That doesn't contradict what the person you are replying to said. They said most Americans drink "little or no" alcohol, not "no alcohol".

Why is it that on the Internet almost everyone seems to silently remove/ignore qualifiers like that, and treat everything as a binary dichotomy???

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by happytoexplain on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:58AM (#30010540)

Yeah, currently there are three people using the same data to "disprove" the parent, which is baffling to me. As I said in another reply, 45% of people had no alcohol in the past month, so "most Americans drink a little or not at all" seems plausible, or at least not disproved by this data. I understand disagreeing with that sentiment (there are plenty of rational arguments that most people drink more than "a little"), but why harm the image of one's motivation by purposefully omitting critical details from the post one is responding to?

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by fastball on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:46AM (#30010304)

Source that most Americans drink little or no alcohol? Apparently in 2019, 54.9% of respondents[1] had alcohol in the last month. And I would imagine polls like this are generally under-reported, not over.

[1] https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sh...

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by lkbm on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:58AM (#30010526)

I drank alcohol in the past month. I drink about once a month. I'd assume that that counts as "little or no alcohol". Thus, if just 1/11 of those 54.9% are like me, his statement to be true.

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Re:No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World He... by mindcrime on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:59AM (#30010568)

I'm in the same boat. I drink, I just drink very little. I don't see any reason to think this behavior is particularly exceptional.

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