There's nothing stylish about being an alcoholic, but people often conflate the two because plenty of prominent, stylish people were also alcoholics. Drinking didn't make them stylish, and anyone who thinks getting lit will turn them into Keith Richards is probably a massive burden on everyone who has to put up with them.

Some people could consider drugs in the same way, just look how many celebrities do/did drugs. And many of them was famous to death thanks to drugs (as they died young, but this point like to be omitted)

>as they died young, but this point like to be omitted

Why "like to be omitted"? It's actually part of the allure.

The slogan was "Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse".

Not "Eat kale, be productive, use a task management program, live to 100".

but alcohol is so pedestrian. and socially acceptable. this is somehow even more pathetic than being a weed guy.

style would require an edgier, more risque substance, and a narrative. but you'll never see it. i think even tweakers know better than to spend energy justifying choices to strangers

exactly; why not look forwards to new industries in 2100s like that of designer drugs and dance-theatres exploring the discourse of higher dimensional manifolds and the holistic feeling that is existence itself

It is for these that I'm giving up alchol for other things [1]

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Before we came up with jogging there was church :)

If anything, most of organized religion is about preparing to die. The complete opposite of our current materialism and obsession with keeping personal entropy at bay.

There is nothing exciting about drinking. It's a substance, and the only reason people like to associate with famous and interesting people is twofold. a) it gives you an excuse to drink b) it takes the famous person down a notch.

The famous people did not become famous because they drank, but due to other reasons - working their arse off, talent, ambition, networks etc. The reason they are also famous alcholics is just an correlation and not causation.

I don't judge alcohol use but it's an end in itself, and it does not improve anything.

It's nice to enjoy a drink once in a while, but it does not improve a person in any way.

There's always lots of other industrial solvents that are even more toxic by the gram or even relatively few milligrams.

OTOH real decadence has been more sustainable forever the less toxic it is.

Being productive can be lots of fun. To each their own of course.