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Re:Roguelikes: The Misnamed Genre (2011) by doodpants on Saturday January 15, 2022 @09:21AM (#29946543)
> For me, roguelike = procedural generation + permadeath, that's all.

By this definition, Minesweeper is a Roguelike. :-)

Re:Roguelikes: The Misnamed Genre (2011) by bitofhope on Saturday January 15, 2022 @09:33AM (#29946626)
+ Randomly generated environment + Permadeath + Turn-based + Grid-based + Non-modal + Exploration and discovery + Single player character (arguable) + ASCII graphics (arguable) + Numbers

Minesweeper ticks a lot of the Berlin interpretation boxes.

Re:Roguelikes: The Misnamed Genre (2011) by morelisp on Sunday January 16, 2022 @04:37AM (#29954594)
I think this is even somewhat uncontroversial, just that considered as such it's pretty shallow. Lots of 7DRL entries take minesweeper elements, and Shiren 5 includes minesweeper levels called "Explosion Rocks" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nAXgSiKotQ) in the same way many traditional roguelikes have sokoban levels.