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Re:Train burglaries in LA by mrhands556 on Friday January 14, 2022 @08:55PM (#29942853)
Most places are weak on crime. We have a judge in Minneapolis over the last week:

1. Some guy chased a woman in his car and she ran to a fire station. He crashed into the fire station and fought firefighters. Released 0 bail.

2. Violent criminal with a long past let out of jail to attend funeral and hasn’t returned.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. We have constant 0 bail for young carjackers who steal peoples cars for joy rides.

It’s madness. I don’t care what anyone says about “punishment doesn’t deter crime”. That’s against human nature and total horseshit.

Re:Train burglaries in LA by panarky on Saturday January 15, 2022 @01:52AM (#29944265)
The US has a larger share of its population in prison than any other nation, about 6x higher than Canada, Japan and Western Europe.

Is the problem really that too few people are in prison?

Re:Train burglaries in LA by meatsauce on Saturday January 15, 2022 @11:20AM (#29947566)
So?

We have many criminals.

Criminals deserve punishment, including jail should the crime be severe enough.

Criminals prey on law abiding citizens.

If you won't enforce the law, citizens will take the law into the their own hands.

Then you will be forced to cry for criminals even more than you are doing now.

Re:Train burglaries in LA by panarky on Saturday January 15, 2022 @09:21PM (#29952657)
Imprisoning people is treating the symptom, not the cause.

If you don't treat the cause, then you'll just continue getting more symptoms.

Maybe we should figure out what it is about the USA that keeps generating so much more antisocial behavior than everywhere else and fix that.

Re:Train burglaries in LA by Gigachad on Sunday January 16, 2022 @04:10PM (#29960090)
Seems like the problem in the US is there are pockets of society which have multi generational issues where the parents don’t know how to teach their kids to be successful since their lives have been a failure too. As well as an environment that normalises crime.

It seems extremely difficult to break this cycle without actually removing kids from their parents/friend groups.

Re:Train burglaries in LA by paulryanrogers on Sunday January 16, 2022 @04:30PM (#29960312)
Another complicating factor could be that the US has a more diverse population. Tribalism is hard to overcome, especially with a messy history of racism and oppression.
Re:Train burglaries in LA by panarky on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:24AM (#29963891)
How is this unique to the US?
Re:Train burglaries in LA by mxkopy on Saturday January 15, 2022 @06:00PM (#29951329)
That is a really simple take on law and human behavior. Are we really going to ignore all of our modern understanding of psychology to say "criminal bad, criminal deserve jail"?
Re:Train burglaries in LA by citrin_ru on Saturday January 15, 2022 @09:46AM (#29946706)
One of reasons of large prison population is long sentences. Shorter sentences with better enforcement can be a better deterrent.
Re:Train burglaries in LA by slim109ya on Saturday January 15, 2022 @02:42AM (#29944525)
Yes, if they deserve to be in prison and aren't.
Re:Train burglaries in LA by adhesive_wombat on Saturday January 15, 2022 @03:08AM (#29944692)
So then the problem is why do more people deserve to be in prison in the US in particular?

Whichever way you cut it, it's bad for society for it to be such a large percentage.

Re:Train burglaries in LA by afiori on Saturday January 15, 2022 @10:40AM (#29947147)
Too few and too many aren't mutually exclusive, it is quite possible that the wrong people are in prison.
Re:Train burglaries in LA by cnlevy on Tuesday January 18, 2022 @06:38PM (#29987760)
You could punish in other ways than prison. Especially in a way to make them repair the damage they did.
Re:Train burglaries in LA by mitchdoogle on Sunday January 16, 2022 @04:15PM (#29960142)
"I don’t care what anyone says about..."

I can see you're enraged.

There's the real problem about everything - making judgments and decisions about the world based on emotions, not facts. You should care what other people say, especially the people who study things scientifically. I'm sure it sounds great and judicious to your enraged lizard brain to lock someone up and throw away the key, but there's a lot more to consider than what makes you feel good.

Re:Train burglaries in LA by mxkopy on Saturday January 15, 2022 @05:59PM (#29951316)
This is anecdotal evidence, and should not be taken seriously.