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Re:Space anemia by DrammBA on Friday January 14, 2022 @01:52PM (#29938508)
Definitely makes you wonder how dependent the human body is to gravity.

Would be interesting to run these tests on different groups experiencing varying degrees of gravity, on a spinning station perhaps, and see what's the minimum amount of gravity we can get away with while keeping side-effects to a minimum.

Long term tests would also be very valuable, 1-2 years.

Re:Space anemia by chinathrow on Friday January 14, 2022 @02:06PM (#29938761)
Scott Kelly spent a year on the ISS while his twin brother Mark stayed on the ground for comparison studies.

https://www.nasa.gov/twins-study

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kelly_(astronaut)

Re:Space anemia by ginko on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:00PM (#29939556)
I really feel like it's high time we try a rotating wheel space station to see if the artificial gravity fixes problems people develop in zero gravity.
Re:Space anemia by dwohnitmok on Friday January 14, 2022 @03:21PM (#29939858)
My impression is that a rotating wheel space station, while theoretically well within the grasp of current engineering ability, would be extremely expensive given that we've never done it before.
Re:Space anemia by bjelkeman-again on Friday January 14, 2022 @04:04PM (#29940417)
These guys are planning to fly a prototype in 2023. https://orbitalassembly.com/
Re:Space anemia by mhio on Saturday January 15, 2022 @05:35PM (#29951110)
That's awesome! At least the prototype part for an automated truss build that they have the engineering for. The subsequent project timelines seem pretty fanciful, like we've built a truss then "hey presto", Pioneer station appears. That then made me question the initial prototype (which is q4 2023 so really 2024/2025). Have you been following this group for a while?
Re:Space anemia by bjelkeman-again on Sunday January 23, 2022 @08:33AM (#30046013)
No, I just found out about them.
Re:Space anemia by bArray on Saturday January 15, 2022 @02:30AM (#29944468)
You wouldn't need an entire wheel, just two equally weighted compartments spinning about a centre point. In theory that's far cheaper. Perhaps you would purposely pump fluid back and fourth to maintain the correct centre of mass.

You could imagine a system where you 'space elevator' objects and people via the connecting cabling, whilst pumping fluid to offset the mass. You would likely want each side to be manned by two people.

You could later add more modules if designed correctly too. They would likely approach and attach to the centre (in a pair, one either sude), match the spin and then slot into their respective 'slots' and rotate on an arm.

Re:Space anemia by maccam94 on Saturday January 15, 2022 @04:31AM (#29945105)
It is prohibitively expensive until SpaceX's Starship brings launch costs down further.
Re:Space anemia by pfdietz on Friday January 14, 2022 @06:15PM (#29941816)
It depends on what level of gravity is needed. The mass scales dramatically with acceleration.
Re:Space anemia by TheDudeMan on Friday January 14, 2022 @05:59PM (#29941680)
And that it's big and heavy.
Re:Space anemia by etatoby on Friday January 14, 2022 @07:00PM (#29942152)
IIRC a spinning space station would only be beneficial if it was very large and thus far from Earth and expensive.

Otherwise the difference in gravity acting on different sides of the body and more importantly the Coriolis forces would wreak havoc and cause more harm than good.

Re:Space anemia by R0b0t1 on Friday January 14, 2022 @05:43PM (#29941534)
There may be processes that use gravity to either sort proteins or concentrate chemicals. I can't think of much else, besides hormone response to stress caused by gravity.
Re:Space anemia by kortex on Friday January 14, 2022 @08:05PM (#29942582)
From what I remember, the lymphatic system is basically open-ended. Blood vessels "leak" interstitial fluid, which flows through the body, collects into lymph vessels, and gets "pumped" by various processes back to the circulatory system.

Everything in chemistry is equilibrium-driven, so I can readily see some process evolving with the assumption of X units of some chemical flowing through this system, and trying to restore homeostasis in space by increasing hemolysis.

Re:Space anemia by R0b0t1 on Friday January 14, 2022 @09:16PM (#29942946)
Ah, good point. That is most obvious. Blood pressure is unrqual and too high in the head in 0g, too low in the bottom extremeties.

I was imagining intracellular processes being effected. There are such processes in plants that are usually used for steering. In animals cells, if such thing exists, it may be minor efficiency changes in processes that add up to diverging from homeostasis.

Re:Space anemia by bena on Friday January 14, 2022 @02:55PM (#29939482)
Gravity is probably the big one as it is the hardest to approximate in space, but we're likely dependent on a lot of stuff that exists on Earth. We evolved to live on Earth. Earth may not be particularly suited for life, but what we consider life may be particularly suited for Earth.