Selling lots of Linux-based hardware that they design in-house.

> Re-implementing Gnome in Rust

That seems a bit disingenuous. It's all still GTK.

> lots of Linux-based hardware that they design in-house.

Are their Clevo-based laptops designed in-house? If they are, why are they designed with such abysmal speakers, mediocre webcam and no attempt to go past the full-HD screen resolution? Why not design something cool like Framework?

Nope, I don't consider those in-house. They are working on an in-house laptop, and if it ends up anything like their in-house desktops, it could be really nice.

Do you have a source for that?

This would really be a game changer. Unfortunately, you need a really great number of units, that building your own custom laptop hardware is feasible. I really which System76 success with that.

I always thought, if Dell were smart, they would do their own Linux-based brand, where they would reuse parts from mainline Dell. Kind of how they produce gaming laptops.

In November 2019, System76 announced that it would start designing and developing laptops in-house starting January 2020. The development process was estimated to take 2-3 years. The first generation of System76’s in-house desktop line (Thelio) took over 2 years to develop.

- Article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/11/20/syste...

- HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21586422

If you have any suggestions for the laptop design, System76 is collecting feedback here:

https://github.com/system76/laptop-suggestions

Thx.

gnome =! gtk

sure they are a bit more related then KDE and QT, still but the same at all

We all know that. I assure you. Gnome uses GTK and evidently Cosmic 2.0 will use GTK

GNOME uses Mutter+GJS, which is quite a bit different from GTK. But sure, GNOME applications are written in GTK.

Sure, but there are already a number of different desktops hurting for maintainers. There is a lot hardware that doesn't work great with my os (which might be a BSD) and I want them to fix that.

I think you can assume they meant succeed at creating computers people love to use and selling them.

Hopefully not.

Not re-implementing Gnome. Not re-implementing macOS which Gnome strives to imitate. OTOH I see the value of that: many people got used to macOS, and making things similar, and the cognitive load of switching low, makes business sense. Same as with Windows in early 2000s.

HackerNews is really a bubble sometimes. I don't get who the "many people" that "got used to macOS" are.

Apple had fiery fest of sales in Q4 2021, outsold all Wintel manufacturers, let alone Chromebooks. And after that, guess what, they now have 8% of desktop/laptop market share, instead of 6% they used to have. You can guess who covers most of the other 90+ percent.

Sent from my 2021 M1 Max MBP.

I have seen this comment a few times but basically half the desktop environments for Linux are GTK. So, using GTK does not equal “re-implementing Gnome”.

I use Cinnamon with Manjaro - it is not GNOME but it is GTK. Unity was the same. MATE is old GNOME but quite different from new GNOME — still GTK though. XFCE, LXDE, and pretty much every popular DE outside KDE and FVWM2 is based on GTK.

Choosing Rust has nothing to do with re-implementing GNOME either although I do like that choice. If nothing else, this ensures well tested Rust bindings and paves the way for devs to write other GTK apps in Rust—-perhaps even ones intended to target GNOME itself.

cinnamon uses enough gnome libraries to count as using re implementing gnome

They're one of the few players selling modern coreboot machines

At making 2022 the year of Linux in the Desktop!