> lots of Linux-based hardware that they design in-house.

Are their Clevo-based laptops designed in-house? If they are, why are they designed with such abysmal speakers, mediocre webcam and no attempt to go past the full-HD screen resolution? Why not design something cool like Framework?

Nope, I don't consider those in-house. They are working on an in-house laptop, and if it ends up anything like their in-house desktops, it could be really nice.

Do you have a source for that?

This would really be a game changer. Unfortunately, you need a really great number of units, that building your own custom laptop hardware is feasible. I really which System76 success with that.

I always thought, if Dell were smart, they would do their own Linux-based brand, where they would reuse parts from mainline Dell. Kind of how they produce gaming laptops.

In November 2019, System76 announced that it would start designing and developing laptops in-house starting January 2020. The development process was estimated to take 2-3 years. The first generation of System76’s in-house desktop line (Thelio) took over 2 years to develop.

- Article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/11/20/syste...

- HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21586422

If you have any suggestions for the laptop design, System76 is collecting feedback here:

https://github.com/system76/laptop-suggestions

Thx.

gnome =! gtk

sure they are a bit more related then KDE and QT, still but the same at all

We all know that. I assure you. Gnome uses GTK and evidently Cosmic 2.0 will use GTK

GNOME uses Mutter+GJS, which is quite a bit different from GTK. But sure, GNOME applications are written in GTK.

Sure, but there are already a number of different desktops hurting for maintainers. There is a lot hardware that doesn't work great with my os (which might be a BSD) and I want them to fix that.