Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by skavi on Thursday January 13, 2022 @02:56PM (#29925946)

Looks like the Android 4.0 UI with a bit of neumorphism thrown in. I really don’t like it. I hope that’s not the style they end up with. The GTK window conveys the same information more clearly (and it looks better).

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by michaelmrose on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:14PM (#29926169)

Looks like it is already better than gnome settings.

>The search also displays a list of all the settings that match the search criteria and not only where they’re located as GNOME Settings does, this makes it easier to change your settings without having to leave the section you currently are in.

>the search bar is available at the top of the navigation view, this is problematic when inside nested menus as the user has to go back to the begining to access it, but in COSMIC it’s available everywhere in the app, no matter how deep inside a menu the user is.

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by smoldesu on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:26PM (#29926364)

Definitely. When I saw the new settings app my jaw hit the floor, I think GNOME's team is going to have a serious fire lit under their ass now that there's a new kid in town finessing their toolkit like a pro.

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by Andrew_nenakhov on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:36PM (#29926481)

Gnome team is busy killing their projects for so long, that they won't even notice.

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by addicted on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:29PM (#29926399)

Does that have anything to do with the DE though? Isn’t that a change that could have simply been made to the Gnome settings itself?

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by Shared404 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @08:59PM (#29929722)

It could, but hasn't been - and GNOME is hostile to users/devs doing such things so it probably never will.

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by awrmc on Thursday January 13, 2022 @10:37PM (#29930326)

That's categorically false, there are issues to fix both of those in the gnome settings:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues...

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by Shared404 on Thursday January 13, 2022 @10:52PM (#29930414)

Which are 2 years and 12 months old with little to no work done on each.

And as a counterpoint:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233

Open, locked, and 17 years old.

GNOME cares about nothing that doesn't fit precisely into their "vision". This could turn out well! But it doesn't change the situation for any external contributors, or anyone who wants functionality changed in a way that the GNOMEr's that be don't agree with.

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by awrmc on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:07PM (#29930484)

That's not a counterpoint, the rest of your comment doesn't follow either. Check the most recent comment for suggestions on how to help out with changing the functionality: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233#note_1106706

If you've got some code to contribute to that, ping the developers on IRC. Adding more comments to that issue isn't helpful. These issues aren't suffering from a lack of comments, they're missing someone to step up and do the work. The original comment was that they were hostile to this, which isn't true.

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Re:Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment by michaelmrose on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:01PM (#29930458)

The first is two years old the second one is a rehash of a two year old issube Since this is about when gnome switched to gitlab they might be further history.

They have a history of finite resources and inability to resolve issues in a timely fashion. They ought to set goals and raise money. People really need to commit their money if they want nice things.

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