More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest numbers in 50 years

Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by hammock on Thursday January 13, 2022 @10:48AM (#29921992)

College was once to be reserved for the rich elite.

But central bank and government policies starting in the 70's gutted US manufacturing and took away most of the non-information worker jobs - so there was little else for the middle class to go for a career except first to college.

Hence today.

However, today it's easier than ever to live off the nanny state WITHOUT a career.

What should the role of college be today?

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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by matt_mb on Thursday January 13, 2022 @10:54AM (#29922068)

>However, today it's easier than ever to live off the nanny state WITHOUT a career.

In what way?

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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by hammock on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:23AM (#29922517)

Welfare payments supplemented wages by about 8% in 1960.

That figure has risen to about 36% today, a 3.5x increase.

Chart: http://www.mygovcost.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/governme...

Source: http://www.mygovcost.org/2011/03/14/the-u-s-as-welfare-state... (the first random example I found on Google)

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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by _moof on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:52AM (#29923074)

This chart includes Social Security and Medicare. I don't think it makes sense to include retirees in a data set when making an argument about "welfare."

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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by hammock on Thursday January 13, 2022 @03:41PM (#29926547)

You don't have to be retired to receive Social Security or Medicare.

Anyway, do you have some alternate data to consider?

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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by _moof on Friday January 14, 2022 @07:53AM (#29933839)

Yes, I'm aware, but that doesn't actually affect my objection. And no, I don't have any alternate data, and I don't feel it's my responsibility to come up with any. You're the one presenting this data set to make an argument; you do the work.

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Re:More than 1M fewer students are in college, the lowest nu... by noasaservice on Thursday January 13, 2022 @11:07AM (#29922253)

Like the way corporations do, I guess?

PPP was a boon - 'Here is a loan that converts to freebie money for millions of companies'. Where'd the money go? Buying Lambo's and the like.

Or, when can I get a tax abatement for 10 years? COmpanies can because of this mythical 'they create jobs' tripe.

Just look up corporate welfare. And if I was permitted to, I would.

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