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Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by AdamN on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:35PM (#29910074)
Reminds me of a CS professor telling me that a COBOL programmer will never go hungry ... and it's still true :-)

MS stack will be high quality and used by clients with $$$ for the rest of your career.

With that said, any serious non-MS shop will be happy to have your experience and so switching up stacks shouldn't be a problem either if you find a good team.

I would just apply broadly and go from there.

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by Melatonic on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:38PM (#29911063)
Definitely not in his lifetime at least!

I imagine in two or three hundred years though we will have moved past COBOL completely. That being said the idea of some future advanced civilization trying to wake up some old programmer from cryo sleep so they can decipher an ancient mainframe that is still somehow running does make me laugh!

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by blibble on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:49PM (#29910305)
> MS stack will be high quality

I've yet to experience a MS product that I would consider to be "high quality" (including Azure)

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by kcartlidge on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @03:01PM (#29912021)
> I've yet to experience a MS product that I would consider to be "high quality" (including Azure)

Most aren't. Some are. As with all software/ecosystem providers.

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by throwawaybbqed on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:54PM (#29910395)
Azure is not bad compared to the options. Also, MSFT is throwing a lot of brain power at it (notable systems researchers from MSR). Curious what you consider is better?
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by blibble on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:10PM (#29910637)
most of my bad experience with Azure is the control interface, which is worse than AWS/GCP in every way

random incomprehensible error messages, near constant UI timeouts and terrible UI performance and experience (artifact deployment has been "skipped"? why? no way to know), etc

the Windows VMs are also extremely slow compared to my employer's non-azure VM, with the Azure VMs having double the VCPUs, disk IOPS and RAM (despite having the same "stack" deployed on it)

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by hackerfromthefu on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @05:55PM (#29913896)
I haven't experienced these UI problems despite regular use of Azure.

The VM speed I can't comment on.

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by yokoprime on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:04PM (#29910552)
Why the same quote and reply with both your accounts?
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by blibble on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:19PM (#29910767)
it's possible that more than one person thinks that Microsoft products are less than high quality
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by Jensson on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:11PM (#29910650)
Do any programmers go hungry?
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by zohch on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:48PM (#29910281)
> MS stack will be high quality

As someone who has used the MS stack, I have yet to witness anything I would call high quality.

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by xeromal on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:51PM (#29910348)
lol, C# (.net) is a fantastic language with some of the world's best language designers taking part in its initial creation and updates.

It has regular improvements and is LEAGES more well-design than JavaScript and I'd say Java.

Sure, it's no GO, but it is ever evolving.

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by R0b0t1 on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:35PM (#29911002)
C# is great, but a lot of the supporting libs like Blazr are not.
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by xeromal on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:57PM (#29911300)
One thing Microsoft does that Google does not is persistently push their garbage until it's actually not bad.

Blazr is relatively new compared to Microsoft's other libs but I'm sure in 5-10 years, it will be solid. It took .net core years before it became decent.

Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by itsdrewmiller on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @06:09PM (#29914069)
Just like silverlight amiright
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by xeromal on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @06:29PM (#29914305)
We don't talk about silverlight. Haha.
Re:Ask HN: Are Microsoft development stack and Azure a dead-... by hackerfromthefu on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @05:56PM (#29913912)
Sigh. Often MS software is not understood by those that criticize it.