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Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by dang on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:50AM (#29902808)
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Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by willis936 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:37PM (#29898352)
It doesn't matter if they're your political opponent or political ally. If they're a terrorist they're a terrorist and should be prosecuted as such. No need for insurrection apologetics.
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by BitwiseFool on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:46PM (#29898479)
>"If they're a terrorist they're a terrorist and should be prosecuted as such. No need for insurrection apologetics."

Ah yes, but who will distinguish between terrorism and protest? The CHAZ/CHOP certainly had the hallmarks of an insurrection, too.

Edit: Ultimately, the decision/determination to charge someone with "terrorism" will be made by a District Attorney or some Attorneys General. These positions are all political in nature and the people holding these offices are under a great deal of pressure behind-the-scenes. THAT is where my trepidation comes from, as political adversary vs. political ally has a massive influence in who gets charged with what.

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by chroem- on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:44PM (#29898448)
Agreed. Terrorism charges against antifa and affiliated "black bloc" extremist groups are long overdue.
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by bilbo0s on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:24PM (#29899928)
Terrorism charges against all these nut jobs are long overdue. From antifa to the mullet mujahedin. We've got the camera footage. We've got the phone records. We've got the internet traffic. Use this new wing of the DoJ to settle all family business as it were. Sweep them all up. From foot soldier right up to financier.

This nonsense has gone on long enough.

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by Mountain_Skies on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:46PM (#29898493)
You think the definition of terrorist won't change whenever it's convenient for the government in power at the time?
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by bilbo0s on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:32PM (#29900007)
I think extremists will force the government's hand.

They never saw a mall they didn't want to burn. Nor a black church they didn't want to shoot up. When they do, and we all know they will, we can run the contact tracing and sweep up everyone from the foot soldier to the financier. We can even shine extremely bright lights on the orbiters and affiliates of these people to let them know we're watching and strangle their action avenues.

So in the end it won't matter. These people can't help themselves. All we need to do is watch and wait. The people in power will either accede to crushing these loonies, or we'll crush the loonies and the careers of the people in power in the process.

Domestic terrorism cannot be allowed to become commonplace. It's time to take things back in hand.

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by kadabra9 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @05:14PM (#29898907)
“Anyone who disagrees with me politically is a terrorist”

Yeah, I’m sure this will go over well.

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by giantg2 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:47PM (#29898498)
Depends on the definition, right?
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by brightstep on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:50PM (#29898554)
Will you still feel that way when you're declared a terrorist for attending a protest where someone brought a gun?
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by bilbo0s on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:47PM (#29898516)
If they're a terrorist they're a terrorist

We need more of this line of thinking in the US.

Watching malls burn had me mad, and then watching traitors carting electronic devices off from the Capitol building on their way over to Glover Park to hand them over to the Russians was the final straw. It's long past time extremists are excised from our society.

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by detcader on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:59PM (#29898678)
Are we talking "triggering inter-generational trauma" terrorism or "promoting ideas that inspire AnarchoCommunist riots" terrorism? Because the government will pick one or the other before long
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by mikecoles on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:35PM (#29898321)
It's not to worry about the next person. The current administration is the current concern
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by blooalien on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:45PM (#29898476)
> "It's not to worry about the next person. The current administration is the current concern"

As it absolutely should be. The current administration should always be the current concern… (Until voting day, of course, when the next administration should be the current concern.)

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by shrimpx on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @05:40PM (#29899339)
Can't you say that about anything? The IRS, DOJ, NSA, Supreme Court. You can claim they were all created by whatever party was in majority power, to go after their political opponents. And it often is politically advantageous to claim BS like that.

Unless you're making the extreme point that democratic republics are intractable, because individual government employees will necessarily bend the rules to favor their own party, then you're not making any point at all.

Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by 18237198371q on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:11PM (#29899769)
Sure you can. That is why I am in favor of limiting the scope of these organizations. Individual employees can, and do, bend and selectively apply the rules. That doesn't necessarily make democratic republics intractable - the continued existence of the US proves that.
Re:U.S. Justice Department forming unit to counter domestic ... by cm2187 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:57PM (#29898646)
I don't like nazi references, but this is not really going against Roger Stone's reference to the FBI being "Biden's personal gestapo".