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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by refurb on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:18PM (#29885802)
This is bizarre. You really think the un-vaccinated will “kill one another off”?

Most likely they’ll get the disease, completely recover and move on.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by 1123581321 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:03AM (#29888830)
It comes from a disbelief in natural immunity that is more prevalent in the US. I believe it’s due to our policy of not accommodating prior cases of COVID on vaccination records, unlike countries with more sophisticated record-keeping. It may also be due to what I perceive to be a culture preference for premium manufactured solutions in this wealthier, highly industrialized country (c.f. our relationship with health food vs. healthy eating.)

If you believe prior cases of COVID don’t affect your survival rate in subsequent cases, and that there will be an infinite number of similarly deadly successive variants, then you conclude that most unvaccinated people will eventually get the variant that kills them.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by nomel on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:32PM (#29897414)
> then you conclude that most unvaccinated people will eventually get the variant that kills them.

I think this makes three large assumptions:

  1. That natural infection doesn't result in durable immunity. This appears to be, unquestionably, not true [1].

  2. Those that are unvaccinated will not get a natural infection. This is exceedingly unlikely, assuming they're living normal lives.

  3. Vaccines will be constantly updated. This appears to be true, with a large time delay (see omicron vaccine being worked on now).
1: https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on...
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by analog31 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @09:44AM (#29891951)
I appreciate the comment, forgive my late response.

I agree that "kill one another off" was a bit hyperbolic, but it was past the edit window before I noticed that it was being genuinely misunderstood. All I meant was what would seem to be happening: People exposing one another to a communicable disease with a death rate of X. I was arguably using the wrong terminology for the magnitude of X.

Whether a death rate of X is acceptable or not may depend on social acceptance of the cause, the visibility of the cause (plane crashes always make the news, suicides don't) social class, etc. This is evident in the use of analogies within this sub thread, as a way of trying to make sense of the issue.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by nomel on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @03:36PM (#29897461)
> with a death rate of X

With natural immunity [1], the death rate will not be constant [2].

1. https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on...

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by analog31 on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @04:17PM (#29898064)
How about with a death rate of X(t).