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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by lambdaba on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:01PM (#29881171)
I don't want to discourage you but it appears to me like with this variant (and probably even more with further variants), it will be impossible to avoid infection whatever you do (and I mean, mitigation strategies will have probably no effect). Look at the numbers we're suddenly getting without anything changing in the landscape (actually, despite a very high number of vaccinations). It looks like the virus has become so contagious that it has rendered our mitigation measures moot.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by celtain on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:24PM (#29881682)
This reminds me of people who say that "duck and cover" is useless in the face of a nuclear strike.

Obviously mitigations won't help if you're blasted in the face by an airburst (nuclear or biological), but it seems like it could still help if you're on the fringe of exposure.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by lambdaba on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:26PM (#29881736)
I don't know how useless that would have been but in the case of Omnicron it does seem basically useless. I don't know, I don't have studies on hand or anything like that, but when you look at the numbers you have to wonder...

[edit]: maybe some of the more "extreme" (n95 masks, etc) have some decent level of protection, but I'm not sure anybody knows, at least with this variant. Even for previous variants all I've seen so far are models, which as we all know have a lot of assumptions.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by conradfr on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:28PM (#29882842)
Maybe it's more duck and cover in the face of lava like in South Park.

It seems active / non-retired people will have a hard time avoiding it but after all the current wave will stop like the others so maybe I'm wrong.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by archagon on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:09PM (#29882522)
I don't see why that would be true if you just wear an N95 (or equivalent) mask indoors, or whenever you're in close proximity to others. Eventually, the spike will subside.

https://calmcovid.substack.com/p/youre-not-doomed-to-get-omi...

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dougmwne on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:19PM (#29882704)
Vaxxed, wearing n95s inside and avoiding crowds outside, wfh, and not having any close personal contacts over the past few weeks, I just tested positive. Omicron is incredibly infectious and all my mitigation strategies from the past 2 years stopped working.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by TameAntelope on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:56PM (#29884142)
It's really hard to see the big picture when you're literally sitting there with a verifiable data point to the contrary (your own experience), but do you think your experience is a guaranteed outcome for everyone, or is it possible your specific situation (testing positive for COVID despite taking precautions) is either an outlier, or at least not the most common outcome?

I'm sorry you're sick, that really sucks. I hope it's asymptomatic and you can get back to living your life soon.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dougmwne on Monday January 10, 2022 @07:01PM (#29885005)
I think this is going to be a common outcome. I read a contact tracing case of Omicron from a Hong Kong quarantine hotel. They have a strict 21 day 0-contact quarantine for entering the country and only 4 cases a day in a city of 7 million. One positive traveler infected another traveler. The positive traveler opened the hotel door at the ordained time to retrieve food and the virus migrated to the hallway, then the other person opened their door hours later and was infected. Our previous sanitary regime is no match for something that spreads as easily as measles and that is evident in the skyrocketing case counts. How many people do you know who are positive at this moment?
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by xenonite on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @02:50AM (#29888749)
"Airborne transmission across the corridor is the most probable mode of transmission."

For reference, this case is described here:

Gu H, Krishnan P, Ng DYM, Chang LDJ, Liu GYZ, Cheng SSM, et al. Probable transmission of SARS-CoV-2 omicron variant in quarantine hotel, Hong Kong, China, November 2021. Emerg Infect Dis. https://doi.org/10.3201/eid2802.212422

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by Schiendelman on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:44PM (#29883074)
It’s not that they stopped working - it’s that they reduce risk to a low amount, but over time, you have more and more opportunities for something to break through that low amount.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dougmwne on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:32PM (#29883793)
No, it’s that Omicron is both more infectious and has significant effect immune escape.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by vanusa on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:49PM (#29883158)
Are you ... boosted?

A double vax from back in April or so would have substantially diminished protection by now.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dougmwne on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:35PM (#29883848)
Booster was scheduled for last week, 8 months post Moderna. Based on stronger Moderna immunity vs Pfizer and since I am careful, healthy and young, I decided to stretch a few more months out. Once I saw study that Moderna offered at least 10 weeks of moderate protection against Omicron, I scheduled booster. Could not get it due to symptoms.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by vanusa on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:38PM (#29883894)
Well, bummer, and best of luck to you then.

At least you know you did everything you reasonably could and didn't just give up like the "vaxxed and done" crowd.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by archagon on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:50PM (#29883171)
Do you have any idea where you might have caught it?
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dougmwne on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:31PM (#29883775)
It must have been while walking around outside or masked in the grocery store.