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Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by dang on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:52PM (#29882222)
Personal attacks will get you banned here. So will taking HN threads further into flamewar. No more of this, please.

Needless to say, using 'autistic' as a slur is also flamebait and therefore against the site guidelines. No more of that, please, either.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. You've broken it badly in this thread.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by throwaway776677 on Monday January 10, 2022 @09:45AM (#29875543)
> A big problem in this industry is sensitive people like you. ... I can't imagine what life would be like if I had you as a colleague.

Jesus Christ. There's just no need for this level of bile, on Hacker News or anywhere else for that matter.

The funny thing is, I have a lot of sympathy for your original comment. I have worked with the odd coworker or two (hence throwaway) who surely were autistic and were impossible to work with and the two things were certainly connected. It may not be PC but it's true. But stately things plainly doens't need to extend to personal insults, never mind this extreme.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by mcv on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:58AM (#29874844)
I'm afraid I can imagine what life would be like if I had you as a colleague, and I don't think I'd enjoy it. I'm not that sensitive, but I do think respect is important, and if you can't respect your co-workers, even after having it pointed out politely, I simply don't want you in my team.

If you struggle finding good projects at companies that respect you and your work, maybe this is something you could work on.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:41AM (#29874592)
I’m confused at this position that bothersome colleagues who don’t communicate enough can be attributed to a specific diagnosis. People can be all sorts of non communicative just because they don’t believe you’re worth their time, or they’re too busy to answer your questions.
Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by cushychicken on Monday January 10, 2022 @09:55AM (#29875725)
why should I have to deal with autistic people who can only give 1 word replies to every question?

Because tolerance is a valuable thing, and makes your workplace a better, stronger one by allowing safe harbor for alternate viewpoints. I suspect your future employer would not look fondly on your choice of words if you chose to use "autistic" in the same manner in a professional setting.

A big problem in this industry is sensitive people like you

I am proud to be problematic to the industry in general and to you in particular if taking a stand against unacceptable derogatory language is considered "problematic".

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by antonvs on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:52AM (#29874744)
> why should I have to deal with ...

Why should anyone else have to deal with people like you?

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by Cthulhu_ on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:00AM (#29874107)
> why should I have to deal with autistic people who can only give 1 word replies to every question?

Well, sorry to burst your bubble but you're already dealing with autistic people in your daily life. Worse, you're being a dick about it. It's a spectrum (or more like an equalizer with many sliders); the ones you describe are low in communicativeness (or low in giving a shit about you), most manage all right. See also: masking.

But yeah tl;dr IT has tons of people on the spectrum; just because you don't notice them means they're good at masking and/or you can't actually tell.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by ethbr0 on Monday January 10, 2022 @10:19AM (#29876130)
To give parent the most charitable interpretation of their comment, they dislike dealing with antisocial and/or poorly communicating people at work.

Whether that's because the individual is on the spectrum, or because they're a dick who just doesn't care... is a medical diagnosis question.

But there's a reason "reasonable accommodation" exists in disability law. There's a balance to be struck between increasing workplace equality and doing so at the expense of coworkers.

I think everyone who's worked in the industry 5+ years has been on a team or project with someone who "reasonable" probably shouldn't have covered, whatever the underlying diagnosis.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by cushychicken on Monday January 10, 2022 @12:22PM (#29878124)
To give parent the most charitable interpretation of their comment, they dislike dealing with antisocial and/or poorly communicating people at work

I understand this, but I also strongly oppose the fact that OP equated "autistic" and "antisocial and/or poorly communicating".

That is an incorrect and harmful generalization towards people on the autism spectrum.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by bena on Monday January 10, 2022 @11:32AM (#29877326)
I wouldn't even call it "low in communicativeness".

Because if you ask a question that can be answered in one word, but are expecting more for whatever reasons, that's your own damn fault.

It's like greeting people with "How are you doing?" It's not a real question. No one wants a comprehensive answer to that. So if you actually answer that question, people are going to get annoyed with you.

This style of communication is infuriating to some of those on the spectrum because it involves navigating a byzantine set of rules that are never defined and ever shifting.

Communication should be clear, concise, and honest if you want it to be effective. Don't make the other side work to understand you. If you want to know something, ask for that information. Don't ask a vaguely related question and hope the other side volunteers the information. Because it's just like the "How are you doing?" greeting. Except, we're not supposed to volunteer information there. And sometimes we're not even supposed to volunteer information in those other situations. So when do you expound? You're stuck in a position of trying to read the other person's mind trying to figure out if they really want to know something. It's tiring and infuriating.

Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by ac2022 on Monday January 10, 2022 @01:04PM (#29878820)
GP seems to exhibit lack of social and cultural awareness. Not all but many people on spectrum also lack social and cultural awareness. They have more in common with autistic people than they would like to.
Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by amcoastal on Monday January 10, 2022 @08:04AM (#29874150)
"Deal with autistic people"? What's the difference between you saying something like that and saying you just prefer working with able bodied adults not having to "Deal with parapalegics". Good luck in your future corporate job, I hope its not sitting next to me.
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Re:How to start a successful freelance business as a softwar... by artemonster on Monday January 10, 2022 @01:23PM (#29879123)
Nice strawman you‘ve made there