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Re:The Rise of Performative Work by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday January 09, 2022 @01:35AM (#29860865)
I’ve been shipping software, my entire adult life (over 30 years).

Kind of hard to fake.

That’s one reason that I was so blindsided by what I encountered, when I was looking for work, a few years ago.

I had an enormous library of finished, high-quality, polished, complete work, already in the public venue; but people were only interested in small, impractical, competitive exercises.

It didn’t take me long to realize that it was more important to consider people who “played the game,” than it was, those that could provably deliver product.

So I stopped looking, and went to work with some folks that couldn’t afford to pay me, but were interested in actually delivering software.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work by incognito_limey on Sunday January 09, 2022 @09:28AM (#29863502)
This really hits home.

I work at a recently IPO'ed unicorn that is doing extremely well and can confirm that in the early days (sub 100 employees when I started) we were more concerned with people who could ship software/solve real problems and had data/experience to confirm this. Now that we are public and growing, it's all leet code style questions to get hired, and I can say first hand that the velocity of development, as well as innovation has dropped off a cliff.

It's to the point that I've stated to leadership that I would fail the interview for the job I've been a top performer in for the past 5 years as the interview format doesn't actually focus on real world skills, but memorising algos.

We've essentially imported this culture into what was once, one of the most dynamic companies I had ever seen. It's awful and I can't wait to leave. Most of the older timers are already going for similar reasons.

More of a rant then a comment I guess, but I just really related to your experience.

Re:The Rise of Performative Work by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday January 09, 2022 @10:00AM (#29863758)
I am sorry about that. I hope that you were able to develop a reasonably lucrative early stake in the company.

In my case, it has never been about the money. It has always been about the joy of development, and, in some cases, a desire to be a part of an elite team.

When I started looking, I would have been absolutely ideal for early-stage startups. I was willing to work for a ludicrously low wage and take risks (I had my retirement set, so I just needed to keep the lights on, and medical insurance), had (still have) an enormous breadth of experience, along with some really lucrative specialized skills. I had years of experience, selling complex projects to very skeptical managers (Japanese, so a tough room. Make American VCs look like friendly puppies). I have actually shipped completed, supported software, since my very first project (I can prove it, I still have the manual[0]). I had a lot of extra time on my hands, was willing to put in long hours, and I also had this massive portfolio[1] of finished work, writings, code, and years of commit history, for anyone that wanted to see. It was plainly obvious what I had to bring to the table; good and bad. I am an open book. Really easy to find out, if you know how to click a mouse button.

Even early-stage startups were obsessed with "cultural fit" (which I didn't have), and don't get me started on the recruiters. They were the worst. The insults and power games were ridiculous (and highly unprofessional). I realized that, even if I got hired, they would treat me very badly.

This tech industry has changed a lot. I had been at my previous gig for 27 years straight. It was one of the biggest brands in the world, synonymous with Quality, and I was on a peer basis with some of the finest engineers and scientists in the world. I was often the dumbest person in the room, and I'm smarter than the average bear. In fact, that was a big reason for my staying so long. I think that it is important to be in an environment where I'm challenged (one of the reasons I hang out here).

Didn't mean a thing. In fact, it seemed to be something that actually elicited scorn.

[0] https://littlegreenviper.com/TF30194/TF30194-Manual-1987.pdf

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/story/chrismarshall

Re:The Rise of Performative Work by WA on Sunday January 09, 2022 @10:01AM (#29863773)
Im curious: leadership apparently ignored your comment? Or what did they say?
Re:The Rise of Performative Work by MattGaiser on Sunday January 09, 2022 @01:45AM (#29860905)
I posted this a while back and it echoed a lot of the same sentiments of your comment. Wondered whether it was just a relative junior complaining, but evidently not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/pzofk7/t...

Re:The Rise of Performative Work by hibernator149 on Sunday January 09, 2022 @02:26AM (#29861087)
The job of HR is to hire people. So HR absolutely loves job hoppers, even depends on them. Given this system, this reddit story is the logical conclusion.
Re:The Rise of Performative Work by astrange on Sunday January 09, 2022 @11:45AM (#29864881)
I’ve always wondered why I didn’t see people at my employer doing this “change jobs every year for huge gains” thing, but if the huge gains are $180k TC I guess that’s why. FB probably pays the interns more than that.
Re:The Rise of Performative Work by MattGaiser on Sunday January 09, 2022 @02:20PM (#29866449)
Yeah a lot of the jumping is that junior at a no name company isn’t anything at FAANG, but senior at a no name can be intermediate/junior at FAANG.

Also, many companies on the lower end don’t provide equity, so you are essentially just rented on a two week basis.