I suspect one reason are online games. Boys are more likely to play them and in lockdown, they were the one of few socialization available.

It does not matter what are reasons for disparity. But, the boys were more likely to continue some unchanged socialization ad they had before. They already had established groups to play with and so on.

Did you just pin one of the reason for suicides on online games? What is this politician talking points from the early 2000’s?

I promise you kids have been forming groups and have had feelings of exclusion that existed well before online games. The root cause here wouldn’t be online games in of themselves.

I literally did the opposite and said that online gaming helped people to socialize in lockdowns. I also made hypothesis it explains some gender disparity in suicides - boys play more likely and it allowed them to keep talking to friends which made them suicide less.

And for the record, I do strongly dislike gaming, surrounding culture and how gamers act when they play more then a little. It just was not my topic now, topic was suicides in covid.

Ah my mistake sorry.

No, they did the exact opposite. The proposed the idea that suicide did not increase in boys because they were more likely to have socialization circles around video games.

According to the CDC data, suicides were way down during the lockdown itself

Reason for gender disparity I meant. But good to know.

Girls continue to have Instagram.

Where the activity can be distressing or malicious in terms of jealousy and trolling

Online gaming too, severely too. Maybe even more. But, it is closer to irl communication.

1.) Boys too.

2.) It is not socialization with active voice chat. That is more like writing letter or something like that. It will do less to make your brain feel like you have social connection.

The thing that is supposed to make difference (according to psychologist that had talk about social isolation) is talking. People who call have similar psychological results as those heavily socialized. if you write mails a lot, you reassemble lonely people more.

Where’s that insta internal investigation on how it’s toxic to young girls (indicative of social media in general).

Nowhere? I suspect few people actually read the report [1]. They asked teen girls (and boys) how Instagram made them feel. The most common response for girls was "no effect" 43%, followed by "somewhat better" 29%, then "somewhat worse" at 18%, then "much better" at 8%, and lastly "much worse" at 3%. The media conspicuously ignored that substantially more girls felt that Instagram made them feel better than worse.

1. https://about.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Instagram-Te...

I don't trust any research Facebook releases about the impact of their own platform and would take such with a grain of salt. There is no incentive for them to ever release negative results.

You might not trust them, but the quote is taken out of context by the media and whenever it gets regurgitated on the internet. It's used as some kind of a "See, I knew I was correct in disliking them!" idea.

That's easily spotted if they preregister their experiments.

They didn't release these results. It was leaked.

That "much worse" at 3% was represented by a single reply.

When i read about the study my biggest surprise was how poorly it was. A poll with 40 people is so pointless that I don't understand why they didn't hire professionals to do a real survey.

Girls are typically more extraverted than boys, which would account for at least some of the difference.

Interestingly, suicides fell sharply during the initial lockdowns in Spring 2020 but surged back in the summer and when kids went back to school.