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Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by divbzero on Saturday January 08, 2022 @08:23PM (#29858778)
Extreme weather can occur in both directions. A year with more rain may be less prone to fire but more prone to flooding. It also does not take natural disaster to notice extremes. People who have lived in the same area awhile will know if there is an unusually wet, dry, hot, or cold year.
Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by godelski on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:11PM (#29859147)
Actually it even gets more complicated. California is a good example. Dry weather makes more fires yes. More fires means less vegetation with deep roots. Not only do these shrubs burn more easily, but they neither hold back water. This makes heavy rainfall more dangerous as flash floods become more common. It's crazy how interconnected these things are and frustrating because it becomes difficult to talk about. The whole picture is so complicated but focusing on a small aspect over simplifies the problem too much.
Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by Breazy on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:17PM (#29859194)
The wetter weather enjoyed by the past few generations of Californians was an aberration. California is usually even dryer than it is presently.

> Paleoclimatological studies indicate that the last 150 years of California's history have been unusually wet compared to the previous 2000 years. Tree stumps found at the bottom of lakes and rivers in California indicate that many water features dried up during historical dry periods, allowing trees to grow there while the water was absent. These dry periods were associated with warm periods in Earth's history. During the Medieval Warm Period, there were at least two century-long megadroughts with only 60-70% of modern precipitation levels. Paleoclimatologists believe that higher temperatures due to global warming may cause California to enter another dry period, with significantly lower precipitation and snowpack levels than observed over the last 150 years.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_California#P...

Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by prawn on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:49PM (#29859454)
Might be wrong, but I think unseasonably wet weather can also increase the fuel load for a fire. i.e., boisterous undergrowth due to wet weather during Spring, which then dries out and is available for fire season.
Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by timmg on Saturday January 08, 2022 @08:35PM (#29858868)
> Extreme weather can occur in both directions.

Of course that's true. What I guess I was trying to say is that a change in climate doesn't necessarily mean more extreme weather (in every instance, I mean). A change in climate could cause something to happen more or happen less. But no one is going to study a given year and a given place that doesn't have an extreme weather event.

Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by hedgehog on Saturday January 08, 2022 @08:50PM (#29858976)
Discrete events are a human construct but the underlying data is continuous. I'm not sure the attribution of individual events is that meaningful and the article suggests for a variety of reasons the models aren't really built for that purpose anyway. So I think in a sense you are right, but this doesn't necessarily imply any problem for the predictive value of the models or research going into them.
Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by ruined on Saturday January 08, 2022 @09:17PM (#29859195)
one thing to note is that, generally, any comparatively calmer system with fewer extreme events is in a lower energy state. and that is exactly what we are moving away from.
Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by redisman on Sunday January 09, 2022 @12:44AM (#29860581)
Washington has also had unusually wet years that encourage more growth on the forest floor so there is more fuel by the time the 3 month dry and hot season rolls over
Re:Do climate models predict extreme weather? by jjulius on Saturday January 08, 2022 @08:32PM (#29858848)
>... more prone to flooding.

Or mudslides.