- Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations

It's there for me too, and I don't recall opt in permission on this.

[races off to something much worse than you imagined with your data]

In hindsight I wouldn't be surprised if their department used this tool to check my current cash income and automatically generated an offer. I wouldn't trust this data for much, and I can almost guarantee that someone in HR/Finance thinks their clever for using it.

And if the loan gets sold to the government, it needs to meet government underwriting criteria and the lender has no free will. Especially for residential mortgages: No private business cares about 3% interest on a loan, they sell those to the government and make money on the origination fees.

If you get a hard money loan, they'll only ask for tax stubs but you'll also pay 10-12% interest. If the buy is really good sometimes they don't even care about taxes or ability to repay - they get your equity if you default so who cares if you make a dumb decision? It's mainly the government loans where they really try to avoid defaults.

1) Where do I make friends with people who have such large piles of cash laying around they're willing to front me stacks large enough so I can lie and claim it as income on my taxes to inflate the size of the loan I can get? Multiple years in a row?

2) Once I claim it as income, I owe about a third of it to the federal and state governments in the form of.. income tax. Is my friend okay with only getting about 70% of each loan back after each tax season?

I mean, if my rich friend loans me $100K each year, after three years (the number of tax returns I had to show for my last mortgage), He'll have lost about $90K on the deal... wouldn't have just been easier for him to gift me the $90K the first year and I could put it towards my house and then not needed such a large loan in the first place? It'd have saved us all three years of hassle.

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/white-collar-crime/mortgage-...

For the income taxes, my first thought would be "sell an NFT for $200k to a friend", now it's a gain on sale of property that can be offset by buying real estate in an "opportunity zone". Later, your friend can even claim a tax deduction when it gets "stolen".

He's self-employed with a business. So $200k in annual sales to his friend, and then he purchases $200k of equipment depreciated over 5 years from the same friend but split among 12 different shell companies so it's not obvious. He does pay taxes the first year, but gets it back over the next 4 years.

That page mentions leasing from the owner at inflated rates, and then getting it appraised at a multiple of the profit. It's not a direct example, but does use inflated income transferred between friends. They probably wouldn't mind paying taxes on the lease income during that time, since the multiple is often 20x.

Huh? Isn't it fraud to declare something as income that's not actually income? Also, if you declare something as income, don't you have to pay tax on it? So this scheme will mean you have to pay a bunch of taxes you wouldn't have to otherwise. This sounds like the opposite type of fraud people do. People usually under-report income, not over-report it.

"Yes IRS, I made $1T last year." "Ok cool, send us $400B in taxes please."

Mortgage fraud is a thing that exists, so it's not like labeling it as a crime lets you forget about it.

> don't you have to pay tax on it?

If you're borrowing at 30x leverage like some government loans give, taxes on the down payment is a small increase in cost-of-leverage which is more than made up for by the reduced interest rates.

Anyways, my point is, there's good reason to look at the same income viewed in multiple ways. Adding an employer into the mix is at least a separate person(which is probably why they waived the requirement in OP's case), while tax returns are filed by the potential fraudster/"entrepreneur".

Regardless, it doesn't make sense to pay taxes on borrowed money. I'm not sure this scheme is real.

Glad to know they chose a product that involuntarily sold out my HR information.