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Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by Grazester on Thursday January 06, 2022 @03:42PM (#29829790)
How is this legal? Where do they get these numbers? You employer(I dont think so) or your employer's payment role processors?
Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by wvenable on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:40PM (#29832994)
Information as a two-way street; your employer provides it so that they can, in turn, get salary reports that they can use.

I worked in this industry briefly; it's likely your HR department is providing tons of information to these services and then using the resulting statistics.

Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by SiNiquity on Thursday January 06, 2022 @05:01PM (#29830928)
Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by slt2021 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:31PM (#29830520)
You yourself provide this info voluntarily to a bank when applying for a loan. The same bank verifies it by asking your paystubs before giving you a loan.

As a rule of thunb - anything you provide to a bank for credit will be reported to credit bureau and they will sell all your personal info to the highest bidder. Or get it stolen by hackers in yet another data breach

Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by yunohn on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:46PM (#29830717)
> You yourself provide this info voluntarily to a bank when apply for a loan. The same bank verifies it by asking your paystubs before giving you a loan.

This is really harmful phrasing - blaming the individual.

> when apply for a loan

This seems like general population data, nothing specific to people who’ve taken loans.

Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by slt2021 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:55PM (#29830843)
I was not trying to blame the individual, sorry if it appeared that way.

Mostly it is the unique messed up american system of credit information exchange where consumers have no control over how their data gets collected/used/sold.

I have never signed up an agreement with Equifax to store my personal data only to get it stolen occasionally. I wish US adopted more european centric models for personal data.

Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by est31 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @08:35PM (#29833545)
Do you know where I can buy this information? It might be interesting to know how much to expect from various companies. Or do they only sell to employers?
Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by est31 on Friday January 07, 2022 @07:31AM (#29838328)
Replying to myself, there's a front page story about it now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29834753
Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by r00fus on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:31PM (#29832896)
Many employers send their entire workforce's annual salary as a standard data integration field for benefit/workforce system vendors. Equifax/TWN is one of those vendors many employers use.

TWN, in turn, grants these employers aggregate salary range data across companies (helping the company negotiate better deals).

Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by bmitc on Thursday January 06, 2022 @09:44PM (#29834129)
I've began to answer, at least to myself, the question of "how is this legal?" with: it makes rich people a lot of money.
Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by lotsofpulp on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:51PM (#29832458)
> You employer(I dont think so)

Yes, the employer. They give data and they get access to data.

Re:New York City will make it mandatory for companies to pos... by gorbachev on Thursday January 06, 2022 @08:37PM (#29833563)
Some of the companies selling this data are the ones who actually process the payroll for employers, and their contract with your employer specifically allows it.