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Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by shakna on Thursday January 06, 2022 @05:39AM (#29821882)
> After years of experiencing cookie popup hell, I’d say that a better way forward would be allowing users to configure their browsers to automatically communicate cookie preferences and consent, but regulators would have to work with the tech industry to make that happen.

We tried that once before. Advertisers joined the board investigating making the "Do Not Track" header have legal weight, as an apparent sign of good faith, and then murdered it with endless bureaucracy that went nowhere.

We're trying to again with the Global Privacy Control headers [0], and I fully expect the same thing to happen again.

[0] https://globalprivacycontrol.github.io/gpc-spec/

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by PontifexMinimus on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:00AM (#29822032)
> then murdered it with endless bureaucracy that went nowhere.

That's why a solution needs to be imposed on the industry. They won't agree to anything in good faith.

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by jokethrowaway on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:26AM (#29822699)
This is being imposed on end users as well. The majority of people didn't care about being tracked when they joined Facebook.
Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by Ragnarork on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:40AM (#29822827)
The majority of people didn't know that they were tracked either, nor what that would actually involve.

Tracking was imposed on end-users, not the tools/legislation that have had to emerge because of that.

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by streamofdigits on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:46AM (#29822871)
what level of awareness do you think the "majority of people" have about the implications of online tracking, of detailed behavioral profiling, of biased algorithmic influences on all online information experience etc.

somehow this particular industry can get away with standards and regulations that for any other industry would be the wildest dream of deregulatory heist

the "innovation" shtick has worn thin, its time to clean up the mess

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by rightbyte on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:40AM (#29822822)
I joined Facebook when I was 16 and at the time neither Facebook or Google was exposed as creepy spyware companies.
Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by olliej on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:39AM (#29822354)
Browser developers explicitly stated the DNT would not work due to it being purely a method to fingerprint users.

That was exactly what they were used for.

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by dmitriid on Thursday January 06, 2022 @05:57AM (#29822008)
> making the "Do Not Track" header have legal weight

And then DNT was used to fingerprint users :(

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by ceejayoz on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:56AM (#29822481)
Default it to on.

Apple did that with their tracking preventer and something like 96% of people left it that way.

Off would be rare, and those people would be the ones who wanted to be tracked anyways.

Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by Nextgrid on Thursday January 06, 2022 @06:59AM (#29822496)
Apple's App Tracking Transparency (if that's what you're referring to, as opposed to Intelligent Tracking Prevention) doesn't even default to anything. It asks you and gives you two equally-prominent options, but indeed even in that case the acceptance rate is still just 4% which I assume is either misclicks or ad-tech people.
Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by wincy on Thursday January 06, 2022 @11:11AM (#29825378)
I use TextNow sometimes and it asks me to allow tracking so it can remain free. It asked nicely so I allowed tracking.
Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by nyuszika7h on Thursday January 06, 2022 @08:16AM (#29823152)
MS defaulting it to on is pretty much what killed the whole thing and everyone started ignoring DNT.
Re:Google fined €150M, Facebook €60M for for non-compliance ... by ceejayoz on Thursday January 06, 2022 @08:43AM (#29823407)
Sure, it only works with corresponding regulation imposing consequences for ignoring it.