Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review

Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by the_other on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @06:40AM (#29807810)

Looking at the first photo, with all the dongles in their own little boxes, and the fact the author bought one "just in case", highlights for me that USB-C is a failure. It has introduced massive technical debt into the industry as a whole. Instead of companies all moving gently towards USB-C ubiquity, we have major players* choosing to solve the failings of USB-C on behalf of their users. This is a patch. It'll be 30 years or more before we're over this hump.

*=Apple and Framework. I'm calling Framework "major" because they have the ear of the industry. They're a computer-person's computer company.

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Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by stavros on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @06:43AM (#29807830)

What would USB-C being a success look like? Everyone throwing away every single device that has an old USB port immediately on day 1?

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Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by CubsFan1060 on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @07:06AM (#29807971)

I am not OP, it a couple things:

* Power and cable clarity. For most folks there is no real way to pick up a random power supply, and a random cable, and have any idea how fast your device will actually charge. Or if it will at all. Generally plugging a laptop into a charger that doesn’t supply sufficient power ends up in battery drain while plugged in.

* A realistic hub. Every try to find a USBC hub? The best I’ve found without paying multiple hundreds of dollars includes a usbc port for power, and a usbc port for a device. I’ve yet to find a reasonable device that allows me to plug 4 usbc devices into one usbc port.

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Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by pashky on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @07:27AM (#29808124)

It would look like lots of new devices NOT shipping in 2022 with micro USB (and even mini USB!) and HDMI and barrel power connectors. But unfortunately they still do.

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Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by jackson1442 on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @11:13AM (#29810797)

Curious- what's shipping with micro usb? I had to find a micro usb cord to charge an older device a few weeks ago and probably have 1 or 2 cords compared with 15 or so USB C cords (and I've never bought a USB C cord outright- those are all from products that shipped with C).

As for mini usb, the only thing I own that uses it is my TI-84+ calculator.

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