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Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by ActorNightly on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @04:45AM (#29807042)
The new i9-12900HK processors are supposed to be more powerful than M1 Max. I am personally waiting till these show up in laptops.
Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by Philip-J-Fry on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @05:10AM (#29807237)
Being able to outperform an M1 Max isn't the issue. It's doing it while also being as efficient as it.

No one doubted that Intel could make a CPU as powerful. But everyone knows that it isn't gonna be cool and quiet.

Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by ActorNightly on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @02:00PM (#29813335)
While M1s definitely win in the efficiency category, the added efficiency is really not that useful for most people on a day to day basis.

Cellphones have moved away from replaceable batteries specifically because of fast charge. Most phones with 20 watt charging will reach ~50% battery in 30 mins, so even with battery degradation, you really don't notice the effect in day to day life.

Same thing with laptops, there really are very few situations where you don't have access to a charging port for ~6-8 hours.

Given that, Id personally rather take the hit on efficiency in return for way better compatibility, ability to run a full linux natively , and not deal with all the extra crap that Apple throws in the M1. And, If I really care about longevity, a second battery is easily an option for laptops like Frameworks.

Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by btgeekboy on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @04:47AM (#29807064)
The power requirements to achieve that though are insane. Battery life will be small; heatsinks will be massive.
Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by gibagger on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @05:08AM (#29807222)
Either that... or massive throttling due to manufacturers putting them in thin laptops without adequate heat dissipation.
Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by protoax on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @04:48AM (#29807072)
Which lose to the M1 handily on the battery and price aspects.
Re:Framework Laptop with Ubuntu Review by j16sdiz on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @04:47AM (#29807070)
at the expense of twice the power consumption.