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Re:Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5–11 Years – US,... by guilhas on Friday December 31, 2021 @11:53AM (#29749814)
It is funny how the VAERS data is only reliable when thought convenient

Although looking at the high number of reports it is apparent that children suffer way more from the vaccine than covid. In the short term, long term is impossible to know the consequences of both

Re:Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5–11 Years – US,... by rsfern on Friday December 31, 2021 @12:22PM (#29750138)
This is based on VAERS and also v-safe data, and the CDC has done some review. They don’t seem to be trying to estimate rates from this data, which is one of the more common errors made when looking at VAERS data

Also, it’s a bit more than 4k reported adverse, and only 100 serious ones, for a population of 8.9 million. That’s not a large number of reports; the number of serious adverse events is less than the number of children that died of Covid in the US since the start of the pandemic.

Finally, I don’t think there’s any a priori reason to think the long term effects of this vaccine will be any different than for previous vaccines.

Re:Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5–11 Years – US,... by bsaul on Friday December 31, 2021 @12:46PM (#29750437)
Previous vaccines didn’t hijack your cell to produce the antigen.

Saying « there’s no reason to think » would be better phrased in a more honest way as « we have no idea, but let’s hope so, since we don’t have a choice anyway »

Re:Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5–11 Years – US,... by rsfern on Friday December 31, 2021 @01:22PM (#29750861)
Obviously we don’t know everything, and we may never know with 100% certainty, but I disagree that we have “no idea”. We have prior knowledge from established vaccines about when to expect side effects, and what kinds are likely. Most known vaccine side effects are triggered by the immune response itself in the first few weeks, and we already have solid evidence on that time scale.

That doesn’t mean that novel side effects or delayed side effects are not possible, but I think without a plausible hypothesis it is reasonable to believe the risk is low, especially compared to a definite risk from infection.

Re:Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5–11 Years – US,... by bsaul on Friday December 31, 2021 @01:52PM (#29751183)
You just described the only part that’s not new, aka: triggering the immune system. that’s the most important part regarding the prevention of covid sickness, however that’s clearly not all the story about this technology.

It always amazes me how people can not realize side-effects happens almost by definition outside of the model used to design the system, or make the plan. There’s a reason we usually require something closer to 10 years before deciding to authorize mass use of new drugs on a whole population. We want to be safer regarding « unknown unknowns ».