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Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by laurent92 on Thursday December 30, 2021 @07:24PM (#29743344)
It’s what you desire your skin to be.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by fao_ on Thursday December 30, 2021 @09:19PM (#29744127)
Yeesh. I can't be the only person for whom this sentence makes my skin crawl.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by be_nice on Thursday December 30, 2021 @10:12PM (#29744449)
Good thing that won't show up in photos!
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by numpad0 on Thursday December 30, 2021 @10:51PM (#29744684)
And I can't be the only person who feels modern life is like perpetually flying through Miyazaki Hayao tentacles and making out the best of it.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by fao_ on Friday December 31, 2021 @05:39PM (#29753263)
Do you mean Junji Ito?
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by numpad0 on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:08AM (#29756515)
I was thinking in terms of creatures from Nausicaa and Mononoke but ... that works too I guess ... The difference is whether those accepted the beings live or nothing can be done to those who were touched by it, but that could be just a perspective difference.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by spoonjim on Thursday December 30, 2021 @07:43PM (#29743504)
That might be good for myself, or if I’m honest even my wife, but my daughter looks perfect to me and I only want to see her in reality.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday December 30, 2021 @07:55PM (#29743587)
No imaging system reproduces reality. You're always getting a compromised result.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by wholinator2 on Thursday December 30, 2021 @08:23PM (#29743774)
Yeah, even your eyes don't reproduce reality perfectly but at that point it's just semantics. He means he wants to see his daughter the same way through the camera that he sees her through his eyes, in real life, otherwise known to him as "reality".

I don't think it's unreasonable to allow context of the statement to allow us to disregard "reality" as it pertains to quantum wave functions, in favor of something more human. There's a large difference in something that's goal is to capture what the eye sees and something that's goal isn't. It feels like Apple thinks they know what's better for us than we do, which I admit it's perfectly capable of doing in certain scenarios. But, when Apples thoughts do not align or go directly against our wishes it's uncomfortable, it feels like your "reality" is being ripped from your hands in favor of what some giant corporation thinks your reality should be, for any large number of opaque or intentionally obscured reasons.

Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by kingcharles on Thursday December 30, 2021 @10:00PM (#29744392)
The amount of post-processing your brain does to make you believe you see far more than you actually do in far higher resolution than you do, whilst combining two 2D views into a pseudo-3D view, is incredible.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by Dylan16807 on Friday December 31, 2021 @12:34AM (#29745293)
That doesn't mean I want a camera to do it. With a bigger sensor I can get a nice crisp image, and that should be the target for what a phone makes.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by kadoban on Thursday December 30, 2021 @11:34PM (#29744935)
There's straight-up blank spots in our raw vision, we don't see ~any color at the edges, etc., and that's just the _start_ of what our eyes/brains elide out. Really crazy stuff.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by shawnz on Thursday December 30, 2021 @08:45PM (#29743898)
As far as I understand the goal of using ML augmentation in camera phones is to capture what the eye sees. It's to compensate for the limitations of the hardware which on its own is not able to produce a true-to-eye result. You seem to be implying that the goal is to improve the photo to be better than reality but I don't think that's the case.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by kelnos on Thursday December 30, 2021 @11:39PM (#29744963)
Right, but it can only guess at what the eye sees when hardware limitations don't allow it to capture enough information. Maybe most of the time it guesses right, but it's still a guess, and it appears sometimes it guesses wrong. Really wrong.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by shawnz on Friday December 31, 2021 @12:40PM (#29750352)
If it's combining information from multiple shots or multiple camera sensors, isn't that more like sensor fusion than "guessing"? I think calling it guessing is an uncharitable interpretation of what's happening.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday December 30, 2021 @11:05PM (#29744764)
> You seem to be implying that the goal is to improve the photo to be better than reality but I don't think that's the case.

I think it is, Afterall that's what all the Instagram filters are for, and that's where most photos end up

Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by mynameisvlad on Thursday December 30, 2021 @11:14PM (#29744824)
That's not even remotely close to AI/ML processing, and also is something you have been able to accomplish-- manually or with presets-- in Lightroom for ages.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday December 30, 2021 @11:29PM (#29744917)
I mean to illustrate the attitude of a typical user, not technology
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by johnmaguire on Thursday December 30, 2021 @11:03PM (#29744753)
Sure, but altering the hue/saturation/lightness of colors is a little different than replacing a bunch of pixels to achieve a "prettier" result.
Re:iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in p... by spoonjim on Thursday December 30, 2021 @09:28PM (#29744188)
Yes but the knowledge of how it was created affects how I see it. If it’s just denoising etc it feels different than if I know it’s painted in some other data.