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Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by corobo on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @10:29PM (#29733196)
Presumably you're a biologist or doctor, someone with the knowledge and certification to make the claim they're deluded? Psychologist maybe?

Personally I think you're just trying to be offensive on your newly green account but if there's anything in there that actually wants to understand please do try to meet with and talk to the people you are diagnosing, it's really hard to hate a person when you know their story

If nothing else consider it doesn't cost you a damn thing to be nice to someone. What's the point in tearing someone down? Is this really the person you want to be? It seems so tragic honestly

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Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by corobo on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @11:02PM (#29733462)
In a world where animals are born with two heads, all sorts of fun diseases and deformities can happen, not to mention the whole range of mental issues a person can have.. is it not at least possible in your mind that sometimes there's a scenario that could cause a rift between the mind's software and the biological hardware?

These are your opinions without scientific method. We can be nice and call them hypotheses if you want

You claim to be a scientist, where's the science?

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by siland on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @11:18PM (#29733550)
I'm not denying that gender dysphoria is a diagnosable condition. Indeed, I referred to its existence twice in my earlier comment. It's clearly a disorder that affects some people, even if the aetiology is currently unknown.

But consider what this diagnosis actually means: a strong desire to be the opposite sex. It's not the state of actually being the opposite sex, just a desire to be.

This remains the case even if the afflicted subject develops a belief that they are the opposite sex by way of a 'gender identity'.

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by pseudalopex on Thursday December 30, 2021 @03:00PM (#29740777)
What a gender dysphoria diagnosis actually means is they met 2 of 6 criteria.[1] A strong desire to be the opposite sex is just 1 of them. 2 if you believe gender just means sex.

The gender and sex distinction is common even if you think it shouldn't be. It's hard to believe a biologist wouldn't know that. Don't misrepresent what trans people believe.

[1] https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori...

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by siland on Thursday December 30, 2021 @04:35PM (#29741727)
Nitpicking the diagnostic criteria doesn't refute my main point, which was that desires and beliefs are not the same thing as actually being.

When you get down to the biological reality of it, a male with gender dysphoria, or who claims a to have a female 'gender identity', is quite obviously not a woman.

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Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by siland on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @11:48PM (#29733717)
No, I didn't feel a jolt of anything.

Your comment was unclear to me though - exactly what parts of my comment were you referring to with your claim of "more hypotheses stated as results", and why? Please be specific.

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by corobo on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @11:55PM (#29733763)
My goal was to try to help you see the harm you're doing, your goal is to.. whatever you're doing.

I failed. That's on me. Don't worry about it.

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Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by dang on Thursday December 30, 2021 @05:29PM (#29742299)
Please don't fuel flamewars on HN. We've banned the other account, but you broke the site guidelines badly too.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting, we'd appreciate it. Note this one:

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls

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Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by corobo on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:16AM (#29748736)
Apologies and noted, won't happen again
Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by siland on Thursday December 30, 2021 @12:53PM (#29739135)
If that's what it takes for you to save face after not adequately explaining your points, then sure, why not.
Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by dang on Thursday December 30, 2021 @05:28PM (#29742293)
We've banned this account for using HN primarily for ideological battle. Not what this site is for and not allowed here.

Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. They are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.