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Re:Why Web3? by everfree on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @08:06PM (#29732268)
> "layer 2" is just a diplomatic way of saying "offchain centralization"

Some popular types of Layer 2s, namely zk rollups, have on-chain data and on-chain transaction verification, so I believe you are wrong on this count.

Re:Why Web3? by IgorPartola on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @11:31PM (#29733618)
I guess I am really out of touch but I understood about two and a half words of what you just said.
Re:Why Web3? by manojlds on Thursday December 30, 2021 @12:25AM (#29733931)
It's a bit like having an in-mem db that then commits your transactions to the actual DB which is much slower.
Re:Why Web3? by CryptoPunk on Thursday December 30, 2021 @12:24AM (#29733926)
It means that everything you need to arrive at a consensus on the validity of a transaction is on the blockchain, and thus enforced by the decentralized network of nodes that validate the blockchain.

So contrary to what the grandparent comment claims, these layer 2 (i.e. scalability) solutions make no compromises on decentralization, as they would if they had a consensus-critical component that was managed by a centralized off-chain party.

Re:Why Web3? by hestefisk on Thursday December 30, 2021 @01:21AM (#29734188)
Are you referring to the likes of Polygon / MATIC?
Re:Why Web3? by everfree on Thursday December 30, 2021 @01:27AM (#29734217)
Polygon has several products. Usually when people say "Polygon" they are referring to Polygon's popular sidechain product, but Polygon's Hermez product is a zk rollup like I was talking about.