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Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by michaelcampbell on Friday December 24, 2021 @04:35PM (#29677966)
It reminds me of a story that a PhD student stuck a $10 (the value varies) bill into the copy of their thesis that got filed in the library. Some <large # of> years later, they came back to see that no one had taken it.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by owlninja on Friday December 24, 2021 @05:29PM (#29678392)
This sort of just happened and made news. A professor left clues to money in his syllabus and no one got it.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/20/1065723014/tennessee-professo...

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by smallpipe on Friday December 24, 2021 @05:37PM (#29678442)
And the actual “clue” looked like a borked copy paste in the part of the syllabus telling you about university wide policies that the student would have read elsewhere already.

But sure lazy students don’t read the syllabus

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by smcl on Friday December 24, 2021 @05:57PM (#29678602)
Yeah this was a little viral hit that went down well with boomers, but it was pretty sneaky. Everyone seems to be suggesting that if the kids these days just did what they were supposed to then they could have scored a crisp $50 and had all the avocado toast they ever wanted.

But where exactly was the text and how did the students miss it? These articles say it was "in the syllabus" but don't really go much further. I don't have access to the full syllabus but a snippet showing its immediate surroundings is available:

    ...
    objectives. As a result, skill-based
    courses in music may be exempt
    from Covid-related accomodations
    as a progression in skills must be
    obtained across the semester to be
    successfull in these course. Thus 
    (free to the first who claims; locker
    one hundred forty-seven; 
    combination fifteen, twenty-five,
    thirty-five), students may be 
    ineligible to make up classes and
    coursework beyond the specified 
    number of days as determined by 
    the instructor. Requests will be
    decided on a case-by-case basis with
    specific emphasis on the ability to
    achieve learning outcomes.

    Technology Support: If you have
    problems with your UTC email
    ...

So it was right near the "please contact the tech support department if you need tech support" message. Basically it's in some boilerplate that every course has and nobody reads because they want to actually do their work and don't expect some professor to try to score internet points by pranking them this way. NPR could've done exactly the same thing on that article by adding a clause to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy docs that are linked, but which we all probably ignored and just clicked "Agree and Continue" to view the article.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by II2II on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:59PM (#29678978)
Sigh. I never had such luck.

During a first year university computer science course, students were told to line up and sign an agreement for access to department computer labs. Most of the students lined up, grabbed the paperwork when they reached the front of the queue, then promptly signed it. I decided to actually read the paperwork, which earned me the privilege of standing at the side until the task was complete. No sneaky clauses, for the better or the worse, in my humble opinion. I simply had the privilege of standing out.

Not that it really mattered. I walked away learning a different lesson since I already had access to their computer systems. I already asked for permission to access their systems, and was granted permission without doing the paperwork. For the most part, these agreements are intended to handle the typical case, and are meant to inform rather than be a rigid contract. (The irony: I consider trust as sacrosanct, so I often over comply with the rules.)

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by beeboop on Friday December 24, 2021 @10:55PM (#29680246)
I've been publicly ridiculed a few times in my life for actually reading something before signing it. Once was a liability waiver for white water rafting. I was yelled at and it was shouted to the group "we got a reader here!!!". Cannot believe how indifferent people are to companies trying to take away their legal rights
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by beerandt on Saturday December 25, 2021 @03:44PM (#29686803)
That's when you pull out a blue pen and start striking clauses and making edits, then ask them to initial.

Reciprocate when they want to read the changes you made, if their heads don't explode first.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by ncpa-cpl on Saturday December 25, 2021 @07:39PM (#29688513)
I will try this the next time I sign something.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by beeboop on Sunday December 26, 2021 @09:09PM (#29698306)
they'll say no, and chances are you already prepaid, so they'll take your payment and you'll be stuck somewhere for hours until everyone else is done
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by ethbr0 on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:10PM (#29680309)
Most people neither fundamentally understand (1) what a contract is or (2) what their options are regarding it.

Which is sad, because it's not rocket science.

PS: You should have yelled back "We have an illiterate guide here!" Anyone berating reasonable behavior deserves to be called out as an asshole.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by toomanybeersies on Saturday December 25, 2021 @07:15AM (#29682666)
Most people have the (incorrect) understanding that anything and everything in a contract is binding, to the point you could demand their first born child as a deposit for a lease and they'd shrug and say "it's in the contract, so I guess I have to".
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by yardstick on Saturday December 25, 2021 @03:52AM (#29681603)
Do these contracts actually stand up in court if people sign without reading them and being given due consideration? Can’t find the link but I recall years ago some EULA provisions were found to be unreasonable and void by the courts (US I think).
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by scott00 on Saturday December 25, 2021 @08:28PM (#29688815)
Consideration is a hard requirement for a binding contract. Note however that consideration in contract law doesn't mean the same thing as in general usage: in contract law it means "something of value". So a contract promising to give someone a guitar is not enforceable, but a contract promising to sell a guitar for $100 is.

In general the likelihood that the parties have read the contract doesn't have any bearing on the enforceability of it. But most such contracts are also contracts of adhesion (roughly speaking a take-it-or-leave-it offer), and there are special rules for the enforceability of contracts of adhesion. The principle is that they can't be too surprising or too unfair. There's a fair amount of case law about where that line is (which I mostly don't know).

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by sterlind on Saturday December 25, 2021 @04:59AM (#29681917)
Yes. There are some rights you can't sign away (e.g. you can't sell yourself into slavery, or use your kidney as collateral), but otherwise yes.

Legally what's important is that you had the opportunity to read the contract before you agreed to it. In HN terms, as an example, you can't legally steal GPL'd code if you don't bother to cat LICENSE.md

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by boomboomsubban on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:56PM (#29679286)
Has anyone had a locker at university? As 10000 students attend that university, I doubt the students had any idea where lockers even were.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by dhosek on Friday December 24, 2021 @09:50PM (#29679913)
It depends, at UIC, there were lockers in some of the classroom buildings that were in use. I’d guess that, yes, students would be aware of locker locations.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by Frondo on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:31PM (#29678817)
It's not just that it's embedded in some of the university boilerplate that the students probably have on all their syllabuses, it's that it doesn't read like anything, certainly not a promise of a free $50.

Is it a typo? A copy-paste error? Only knowing that "free to the first who claims" is part of a boomer gotcha for kids these days does that whole parenthetical make any sense to me.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by wccrawford on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:40PM (#29679195)
Also, if I read that, I would assume that figuring out where I needed to go and actually taking time to do that would end up in nothing, so I wouldn't bother. I wouldn't expect to get rich off it, and the chance at (apparently) $50 wouldn't excite me enough for me to waste my time on it.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by dlhavema on Saturday December 25, 2021 @01:04AM (#29680890)
When i was in college, a chance at say 50$ would totally tempt me to spend a few hours hunting around campus ( Arizona State Uni for me ), i made ~$8 an hour at the time
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by Frondo on Saturday December 25, 2021 @05:48PM (#29687755)
Sure, it could be a fun thing to do (I'd have done a little treasure hunt for $50, too), but the professor's syllabus doesn't say it's $50 at all. "Free to the first who claims" -- claims what? free what? It isn't even a complete sentence, in the middle of boilerplate that's if anything exceedingly verbose. It doesn't parse like meaningful instructions. That's why I think it's a hokey gotcha, and not an actual sign of "people don't read instructions" (which we all instinctively know anyway??)
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by kovvy on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:21AM (#29680699)
Many people put answers to assignments and exams in the course material and very few people get it.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by annecruz1996 on Saturday December 25, 2021 @03:24AM (#29681473)
I think I remember a story about a professor that said they can stop taking the exam and turn it in if they read a sentence in the exam which was placed like halfway through and only a few people in the class actually did that.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by sverhagen on Saturday December 25, 2021 @06:49AM (#29682504)
Isn't that kinda the point of these materials in the first place? :)
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by dlhavema on Saturday December 25, 2021 @01:05AM (#29680895)
Is this a clever way of saying "studying"? :)
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by dnautics on Friday December 24, 2021 @10:18PM (#29680060)
We had a PhD student who removed a random different page from his thesis that got sent to each of his committee members.

I went into my thesis with a preprint of a paper exposing a fraud in my thesis chair's lab, literally in my back pocket... As a confidence booster.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by dhosek on Friday December 24, 2021 @09:48PM (#29679899)
I had heard that some MFA student had written in the library copy of his thesis, “if you’re reading this, I guess I’m famous now.” Alas, I was part of the two MFA cohorts whose theses were electronically filed which means that it’s unlikely anyone will ever read it even if I did become famous.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by seanmcdirmid on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:03PM (#29678997)
I’m pretty sure phd dissertation hard copies are never read over in the library anymore. Digital downloads only.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by atrettel on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:53PM (#29679269)
Well, I do not think I have ever read a dissertation from cover to cover that I checked out from the library, but I did read several substantial sections of quite a few when I was in graduate school. These ones were older and not yet digitized (1960s to 1980s). I had to request them from storage and read them in a reading room. I was just looking for certain kinds of experimental data for my own research and had no reason to read them cover to cover. I agree that people rarely check out hard copies of dissertations anymore but certainly many people do from time to time when needed.
Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by seanmcdirmid on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:29PM (#29680412)
Were these the original hard copies each graduating PhD student must file after they’ve defended? That would involve physically going to some random university to physically check out some random person’s dissertation where the dissertation wasn’t notable enough to be available online. I just can’t see that happening, unless somehow the university you were studying at had the random dissertations that you wanted to read.

If it wasn’t the original hard copy but a copy then I don’t think the $20 bill would be there regardless.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by atrettel on Saturday December 25, 2021 @06:14PM (#29687943)
Yes, these were the original hard copies. I was only talking about dissertations filed at the school I went to, so I fortunately did not have to go anywhere. I just had to put in the request and wait a day or two for them to arrive at the reading room from storage.

You are correct that getting dissertations from far off universities is often impossible. Many universities do not loan their dissertations via interlibrary loan, so unless it is online or you are willing to travel to their campus, you can't get access to it. ProQuest is another option, but they do not have everything and it costs money.

I've heard the 20 dollar bill story many times but I have never found anything like that in an original hard-copy dissertation. If I recall correctly, I have found things used as bookmarks, like receipts or scraps of paper, and the cards in the back cover are often stamped at least once a decade. That seems to suggest that other people have read them over the years, just not as often as other materials.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by lostlogin on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:18PM (#29679073)
Were they ever read?

An amusing counter example - I was asked to proof a students assignment. I did and the essay seemed weird and I couldn’t work out why, but the content was ok.

Some hours later I realised the work was mine, and had been placed in the library as an example of something (presumably anonymised). Good times.

Re:Georgia teacher read the fine print and won $13K (2019) by cafard on Saturday December 25, 2021 @02:59PM (#29686429)
When editor of The New Republic, Michael Kinsley would go to Olsson's, which then had the biggest bookstores in Washington, DC, and leave slips redeemable for $10 or $20 inside copies of the books that "everyone" was taking about and supposedly reading. He never had to pay out.