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Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by nullspace on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:29PM (#29675487)
This is extremely easy to defend from an H1B perspective for an engineer. It just obviously comes under testing the platform that you build, delivering high quality products and building strong relationships with the rest of your team towards that end.

It is also the reason why this program seems to exist in the first place, so it all looks like good faith.

Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by nrmitchi on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:43PM (#29675672)
I want to believe that. I really do. But I'm not sure that I agree. Testing of an app/system can, and does, happen within a non-real-world environment. I think it's kind of hard to justify that "testing the app" also requires the tester to physically drive to a restaurant/location, pick something up, and then physically deliver it to an end consumer. If this is the only way for an engineer to appropriately test a system there was a massive failure somewhere else. If it's not the only way to test, then it's hard to justify having the engineer do a job that a different person is typically paid to do.

"Building strong relationships with the rest of your team" may be a bit of a stretch since you're not doing a delivery with the rest of your team... you do it by yourself.

I'm not accusing DoorDash of acting in bad faith here. I'm concerned that this decision could unexpectedly put a portion of their employees in murky territory

Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by wizardofmysore on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:01PM (#29680273)
My company in South East Asia has been doing this for years now, we are in ride hailing and food delivery business among others.

Why is it important?

It drives empathy. Testing in non-production environment can tell that the feature is working as expected but it can't tell what the delivery person goes through or what the customer experience is like.

Our policy is not one trip but one day of doing this.

Overall it drivers a deeper appreciation towards deliver agents.

Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by justinclift on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:02AM (#29680590)
> Our policy is not one trip but one day of doing this.

That sounds much more effective. :)

Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by kyawzazaw on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:20AM (#29680690)
It will be fine. They have immigration lawyers.
Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by d0gbread on Friday December 24, 2021 @10:47PM (#29680201)
Testing like CX, not testing like QA.
Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by joshuamorton on Friday December 24, 2021 @10:57PM (#29680255)
"dogfooding" is often the term used for this type of experiencing.
Re:DoorDash will require all employees to deliver goods by miscaccount on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:44PM (#29675683)
how would a data engineer call it testing the platform. The delivery is nowhere near his job description. It could be kind of reasoned for an app or web developer. Also what about the OPS team. Its is most likely not in his job description that was submitted to USCIS.

Also even if its was in job description, on H1b it would be considered an additional job and might need an additional H1b filling. Any active income will need to filed by the employer

This is my understanding.