Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by asimpletune on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:23AM
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I wonder if melting ice is making this easier to do or more economically feasible than it has been in the past?
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Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by tiernano on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:33AM
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I vaguely remember reading that there were shipping routes that would be half the time and distance if the ice was melted... And some ships run during the summer months... Mostly from Russia to Europe... Iirc...
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by zerovar on Friday December 24, 2021 @09:27AM
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Wendover Productions had a video on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjuRoZ0Vu8
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by tiernano on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:32PM
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thats probably where i heard about it.
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by dragonelite on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:56AM
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The route will become more popular, it's not a route the US can in anyway block.
If i'm not mistaken Russia can now ship 8~10 months of the year via the artic route, they want/are planning to create more nuclear ice breakers i'm sure the Chinese are more then willing to make sure the Artic route stays open the whole year.
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by grecy on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:29AM
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Yes, Absolutely. A handful of years ago sailing through the North West Passage (around Alaska then across above Canada) was unheard of. Now it's quite routine, lots of people do it for fun every summer.
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by tupac_speedrap on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:30AM
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Probably, Russia are also building the "Polar Express" subsea cable from Murmansk to Vladivostok around Siberia so I guess is it viable now.
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by asimpletune on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:39AM
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Also - totally unrealistic - but what if the ice freezed again, making the cables impermeable to spying and ushering in some kind of golden era of diplomacy and trust. I remember reading that in times when technology favored defense there were widespread moments of peace throughout Europe, like in the Middle Ages, so this could be something like that.
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by throw0101a on Friday December 24, 2021 @06:43AM
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> but what if the ice freezed again, making the cables impermeable to spying and ushering in some kind of golden era of diplomacy and trust.
It would make no difference: subsea cables are accessed via submarine, which don't care about ice (or no ice).
* https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/th...
* https://www.lawfareblog.com/evaluating-russian-threat-unders...
* https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/we-now-have-details-u...
Re:Subsea Cable to Connect Asia, Europe, and North America T...
by nradov on Friday December 24, 2021 @10:35AM
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Spying by tapping into unencrypted traffic on undersea cables was done briefly during the Cold War. Now governments encrypt all their traffic so you won't get anything useful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells?wprov=sfla...