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Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by raydev on Sunday December 19, 2021 @02:05PM (#29617159)
> This is news just because it's an Apple device being used for something that was already trivially possible.

> GPS trackers designed to be magnet-attached to a car which report their location via cell signal cost ~$20 on Amazon. You then tend to need to pay for either a SIM card or a subscription to the device maker's service -- bringing you up to about the cost of an AirTag.

So you're saying Apple made it even more trivially possible. Not only does it cost the same, it now requires less effort.

Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by madeofpalk on Sunday December 19, 2021 @02:14PM (#29617245)
In one way. In another way, the only way the tweet author knew was because Apple alerted them to the fact that they were being tracked.

Other trackers would not do that. It seems Apple actively put effort into thwarting this kind of use.

Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by ConcernedCoder on Sunday December 19, 2021 @02:44PM (#29617549)
meta irony! The device that informed you that another device was tracking you is, of course, already tracking your every move.
Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by kadoban on Sunday December 19, 2021 @02:44PM (#29617544)
They did the bare minimum so that once in a while creepy stalkers will get noticed. Should we give them an award?
Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by drekk on Sunday December 19, 2021 @02:56PM (#29617680)
Nah, just recognize that the tech already was out there, for a lower cost, in a form factor that won't notify you you're being tailed

This isn't a new thing and Apple takes steps that, for example, Tile doesn't to prevent their products from being used for nefarious purposes

Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by kadoban on Sunday December 19, 2021 @03:17PM (#29617895)
I do recongnize that. Does only the first person selling a dangerous product deserve scorn? "X did it first!" is the excuse of a toddler.

They've also made it easier than gps trackers (no sim card needed), probably safer for stalkers (does Apple have a way to report AirTags used for crime and/or find out who owns it?) and it's more effective than Tile.

It also favors their own ecosystem, because only iphone owners get warned. (no I don't consider beeping enough, finding something that beeps intermittently is notoriously difficult).

Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by lazide on Sunday December 19, 2021 @03:41PM (#29618155)
Beating up on Apple for making something LESS able to be abused and more transparent/understandable just seems disingenuous though?

The difference in level of abuse for something that will actively draw attention to itself after some period of time vs something of the same cost that was previously widely available and was more subtle and would not, is pretty big. And it is in the favor of Apple not being abusive or favoring abuse.

Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by kadoban on Sunday December 19, 2021 @03:58PM (#29618340)
So if there exists anyone who does something slightly worse, everyone else gets a pass? Our prisons will be emptier at least.
Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by lazide on Sunday December 19, 2021 @04:04PM (#29618398)
So if someone makes something better and not a good idea to abuse, they’re terrible?
Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by kadoban on Sunday December 19, 2021 @04:11PM (#29618470)
"better" does not mean good. This _is_ easy to abuse, which is my issue with it.

The protections in the system feel more like PR shields than effective deterrents.

Re:Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar by kemayo on Sunday December 19, 2021 @02:11PM (#29617208)
I'm saying anyone who wanted to do this already could, and Apple's version is worse at being abusive than what they could already do.

Sticking trackers onto the cars of people parked near bars isn't really a thing you do on a whim.