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Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by culi on Saturday December 18, 2021 @08:04PM (#29610373)
Occupy Wall Street was the birth of the left in the US. The US hasn't really had a leftwing since the 1920s. It created a whole class of activists that went around couch-surfing and protesting at major events. A few years later #NoDAPL happened and a huge chunk of the people involved in that were also involved in Occupy. As someone who was really involved in union organizing all the way on the opposite side of the country, I can tell you how much these organizers had an influence. We saw a huge shift in attitudes towards labor organizing after that and a huge influx of energy from people who first got into organizing through Occupy. Occupy also gave us Graeber and so many strains of leftist theory related to eco-socialism, communalism, and many other "hot" leftist theories today.

I'm sorry but I feel like this author is really out of touch here. Perhaps to someone who only interacted with it through the news, it seemed like they didn't get anything done. But that energy didn't just dissipate. It spread to almost every facet of American leftist organizing

Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by vegenaise on Saturday December 18, 2021 @08:25PM (#29610497)
what about seattle in 99? what about the alf and elf? what about EF!? bookchin, zerzan, cfd, i could go on forever. also, occupy didn't give us graeber, graeber gave us occupy. sounds like occupy was your first exposure to the left in the us.
Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by culi on Sunday December 19, 2021 @12:25AM (#29611606)
Sure of course I'm biased to my own anecdata. Yeah sure you can find examples like ALF and ELF and even demonstrations like the 1990 WTO protests, but it doesn't change the fact that for basically the last 100 years the american "left" has been a pretty niche political movement mostly involving very academic post-marxist debates or sectarian conflicts about ml theorists. It certainly wasn't at the scale it was in the early 20th century and certainly not at the scale it's emerging to be now

Also saying Graeber gave us occupy is giving a lot more credit to him than I think is fair. And I think Occupy introduced a lot more people to Graeber than Graeber introduced to Occupy

Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by guerrilla on Sunday December 19, 2021 @06:56AM (#29613243)
> Occupy Wall Street was the birth of the left in the US

And did you miss the 60's?

Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by 8note on Sunday December 19, 2021 @03:59PM (#29618350)
The red scare happened before that. If not about the left in the US, who were they afraid of?
Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by Animats on Saturday December 18, 2021 @09:18PM (#29610767)
Union, Yes!

I didn't realize that Occupy had helped labor organizing.

Does leftist theory really help when trying to organize a business?

Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by tacocataco on Saturday December 18, 2021 @09:38PM (#29610850)
I think you'd be interested in Mondragon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by refurb on Sunday December 19, 2021 @12:57AM (#29611768)
”The US hasn't really had a leftwing since the 1920s.”

Ummm… the 60’s would like to have a word with you. You’re clearly lack some significant history lessons.