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Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by nebula8804 on Saturday December 18, 2021 @07:50PM (#29610295)
How do companies like Tesla, SpaceX and Jobs era Apple perform so well then? These companies are thousands of employees, multiple departments. Everything I have heard seems to indicate that amazing execution ability of these places. Either Elon knows everything that is going on top to bottom or he must be instilling some fear in managers that keeps them in line. I think its the latter. I hear if your name crosses his desk that means you screwed up/underperformed and that you will have severe punishment. I think this method is not performed as seriously in other organizations and it leads to middle management jockeying for power instead and slowly introducing bloat.
Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by AnthonyMouse on Sunday December 19, 2021 @12:53AM (#29611740)
When Apple was designing the original iPhone, they had about 10% as many employees as they do now. And this cruft accumulates over time and with size; there is less of it in smaller and younger organizations.

Managers are also aware of their company's market position. If the new Camaro didn't sell, GM was still going to exist. If the Model 3 didn't sell, Tesla was toast. A middle manager who bankrupts the company inherently loses their job, so people are less inclined to play stupid games when that's what's on the line.

Companies doing novel things are also able to retain employees who believe in the mission even when the big boss is a fire breathing dragon. You put the same kind of boss in charge of the DMV or the cable company and people are just going to quit, or exert political pressure against the boss.

This points to antitrust as a solution. Constrain mergers and vertical integration. Then companies that become bureaucratically inefficient actually fail and go away, solving the problem. And that possibility was always the primary deterrent to it happening, which is why it happens so much more when that isn't on the table.

Re:Excerpt from CIA's Simple Sabotage Field Manual (1944) by vlovich123 on Saturday December 18, 2021 @11:24PM (#29611299)
There may be things government bureaucracies can learn from industry. It’s a different problem domain though. Government institutions are large. Like DoD is 2.68 million employees and that’s only one branch of the federal executive branch. You’ve still got the judicial, legislative branches and all the hierarchies down to the municipal level. Then there’s the fact that many things a single person might try to do have laws around them. Also the leadership changes every 4 or 8 years and when that happens there usually a drastic idealogical shift in the direction to take the organization.

Apple has 150k employees and runs mostly like a dictatorship with very long ruler at the top that has a lot of power and a generally consistent long-term version they’re executing on. Distributed decision making might be a bit stronger but there’s also no real laws to speak of with lots of forgiveness if things turn out well.

Also the motives are drastically different. Government is about creating the best structure for a bunch of humans to cohabitate with a shared value system. Corporations typically are about amassing power, wealth, and influence over governments.