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Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by b3morales on Saturday December 18, 2021 @02:25PM (#29607669)
How would GitHub or Bitbucket go about "installing" Microsoft's or Apple's proprietary tools on their website?
Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by jodrellblank on Saturday December 18, 2021 @02:34PM (#29607769)
On Microsoft Github, in a repository such as https://github.com/nodejs/node press `.` (the full stop key) and it will take you away to github.dev, load Microsoft's VS Code in-browser to view and edit code with VS Code plugins and highlighting.

And from there you can use GitHub Codespace to "develop in a cloud-hosted, customizable environment" to run and debug.

Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by junon on Saturday December 18, 2021 @03:16PM (#29608121)
And you can't even hit the back button. Incredible.
Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by junon on Saturday December 18, 2021 @05:41PM (#29609316)
Apologies, I just read my comment again...

To be clear, I'm talking about the VSCode app. Once you visit it they hijack the browser history and hitting back causes the entire app to reload, over and over again, until you manually drop down the history menu and jump 2+ pages back.

I realize now my comment sounded rude and pointed toward the parent (not at all the intent) - I can't edit it so here I am again.

Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by grimgrin on Sunday December 19, 2021 @12:44AM (#29611686)
hit it twice. is that the point? def not, but i got it to go back
Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by junon on Sunday December 19, 2021 @06:28AM (#29613114)
Perhaps I wasn't fast enough, but it didn't work for me.
Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by eternalban on Saturday December 18, 2021 @03:36PM (#29608260)
They can do their primary directive to act as public centralized vcs repositories.

The proposition here is that the IDE provides dev process tooling so you are in fact collaborating with your team, e.g. reviewing your code, but Github (Microsoft) and other centralized services are not necessary and not included in the activity. And yes, if AWS etc goes down, your IDEs will continue to work and you can continue to collaborate.

Re:I can read C++ and Java but I can’t read Smalltalk (2000)... by jacquesm on Saturday December 18, 2021 @03:15PM (#29608113)
GitHub == Microsoft and has been for a while.