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Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by paulpauper on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:31PM (#29587353)
Same for YouTube. they allow blatant crypto scam videos to run (such as videos impersonating famous people like Michael Saylor) yet none of their hundreds of highly paid engineers are able to do anything even though it is such a blatant fraud and people are losing a lot of money. It's like "who cares if users are being ripped off. sucks for them. not our responsibility." Unless a law is passed holding these companies accountable, little will change.
Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by klabb3 on Friday December 17, 2021 @12:34AM (#29588248)
> yet none of their hundreds of highly paid engineers are able to do anything

Moderation doesn't scale well, so hundreds of engineers don't go very far even if you put them all on moderation. Google doesn't like to put money on anything that can't be automated (even when it's the appropriate, like customer service), hence you see only ML filters that of course can't tell the difference.

Also, careful what you wish for. As we've seen, one man's moderation is another man's 1A violation. I'd much more prefer comments, downvotes and user defined filters to do the accountability, than a guaranteed-shitty DOA moderation/truth keeper team. I worry much more about YT's slow creep towards a fully auto-play, advertiser friendly TV equivalent.

Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by CabSauce on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:32AM (#29594444)
The first ammendment doesn't apply to a private company.
Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by stjohnswarts on Saturday December 18, 2021 @03:21AM (#29602813)
Yes it does when it comes to free speech. What gives you the impression that it doesn't? I mean it might not be good for your stocks, but companies have most of the same free speech rights that a regular person has.
Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by jiggawatts on Friday December 17, 2021 @12:21AM (#29588142)
I get unusually annoyed by fake movie trailers. The type that edit together random scenes from previous movies and get 17M views.

Like… wtf. If an actual content creator uploads something they filmed in their own garage but there’s a sliver of a poster in the background with Mickey Mouse in it, it’s instantly flagged as a copyright violation.

Straight up reposting of 5 minutes of a movie pretending I be a new one? Fine, go ahead…

Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by cube00 on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:55AM (#29591487)
Lots of ad dollars to be made on 17M views so I'm not surprised they really take their time to carefully consider and weigh up the opposing arguments of removal, free speech and what not /s

Meanwhile the one with 200 views gets their channel banned along with their Google account.

Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by yawaworht1978 on Friday December 17, 2021 @10:30AM (#29593492)
Assuming this is the person's first viral video and they have no affiliate contract yet, do they get something in retrospective?

And if someone is a partner, how much money would they make just by the views? Let's exclude followers etc. Do they get something for just the views or do they have to have ads in the video?

Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by LeonM on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:17AM (#29591183)
Thank god I am not the only one experiencing this.

I am generally interested in space related subjects, but my feed is constantly full of fake 'live' SpaceX and Elon Musk videos. These are just old SpaceX streams overlayed with crypto scams.

No matter how often I report these videos as misleading, the keep being recommended to me. At the beginning, reporting a video would make it disappear from my feed instantly, but now, even after reporting the video stays in my feed. My guess is that the report/view ratio of my account is probably so bad now that Youtube is no longer processing my reports as trustworthy.

Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by annadane on Friday December 17, 2021 @01:34AM (#29588669)
And now that they removed the dislikes, good luck finding the scam videos (as a user)
Re:Amazon still isn't doing enough to stop bait-and-switch r... by ivanche on Friday December 17, 2021 @06:59AM (#29591042)
Enhancer for YouTube [1] is your friend. I use it in Firefox but I think there are extensions for Chromium based browers too.

[1] http://www.mrfdev.com/enhancer-for-youtube