Re:There Is No 'Them'
by jhbadger on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:44AM
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The author makes a good point in regard to comparing the Internet and social media to the dawn of printing and mass literacy. We tend to see books and literacy as inherently good, but pretty much the first thing people did with printing technology in the West was to start a bunch of new versions of Christianity which often fought bloody wars among themselves. So the upheavals caused by social media aren't really unexpected.
Re:There Is No 'Them'
by ZeroGravitas on Friday December 17, 2021 @05:32AM
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> A true Valley technologist has never met a monopoly they didn’t want to detonate sky-high with technology (thereby reaping gargantuan sums).
I'm assuming we're making an exception for their own monopolies? I think most people are in the "would like to get rid of monopolies that abuse them but keep or ones that reward them personally" camp.
It's only really noble if you're against them as a general principle and demonstrate that by giving up the ones you have the power over.
Re:There Is No 'Them'
by doomrobo on Friday December 17, 2021 @05:08AM
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Why is "Twitter" a stand-in for "tech" as a whole. Tech definitely is a tool as the author says. But Twitter is a company with a tech stack and a website and incentives to feed people content that keeps them looking at ads. If I had to argue this I'd say that Twitter is the "monopoly that should be blown sky high", not the New York Times
Re:There Is No 'Them'
by dusted on Friday December 17, 2021 @04:20AM
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This is a good and insightful read even if the beginning is a bit terse.
It is very easy to fall into the them-fallacy, the less informed you are on a topic, the simpler it seem to you and the more easy it is to think of some group as "them".
Many people understand their own group, field or organization well enough that don't apply the "them" mentality, or even the "us" mentality on it, for instance, well-informed citizens of a country wouldn't say "us" or "we" about that whole group, as they know well that _A_LOT_ of people within that country have opposing opinions to their own.
Re:There Is No 'Them'
by max002 on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:23AM
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I tend to get very vary/suspicious of people who tend to use term "them" without specifing who (exactly) them is :) im (so called in my country) "lefty", but i do have some collegeus that are opposite. Ive noticed that when they start to introduce term "them" into discussion the whole thing goes from standard conversion into talking with paranoics :D very nice article, thank you
edit: after reading footnote 2 my comment seems completely superfluous, so meh.
There definitely exists a group of people who see the endless pursuit of technology without consideration of its' effect as being the solution to all issues we face in the world.
I'm assuming we're making an exception for their own monopolies? I think most people are in the "would like to get rid of monopolies that abuse them but keep or ones that reward them personally" camp.
It's only really noble if you're against them as a general principle and demonstrate that by giving up the ones you have the power over.
It is very easy to fall into the them-fallacy, the less informed you are on a topic, the simpler it seem to you and the more easy it is to think of some group as "them".
Many people understand their own group, field or organization well enough that don't apply the "them" mentality, or even the "us" mentality on it, for instance, well-informed citizens of a country wouldn't say "us" or "we" about that whole group, as they know well that _A_LOT_ of people within that country have opposing opinions to their own.
https://pics.onsizzle.com/their-barbarous-wastes-our-blessed...
There definitely exists a group of people who see the endless pursuit of technology without consideration of its' effect as being the solution to all issues we face in the world.