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Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by abcd_f on Thursday December 16, 2021 @08:47AM (#29578017)
Russia doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine for as long as it’s not in Nato. Just like the US didn’t like Russian military presence on Cuba, they don’t want the US presence in Ukraine.

It’s all fundamentally dead simple. Russia views Ukraine as a buffer country between itself and the West and will do anything to keep it that way.

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by sofixa on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:30AM (#29578462)
> Just like the US didn’t like Russian military presence on Cuba, they don’t want the US presence in Ukraine.

Which was, funnily, in response to US military presence in Turkey, which is still there. It's understandable that Russia doesn't want to see itself surrounded by "enemies".

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by dragonwriter on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:48AM (#29578655)
> Russia doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine

They should probably stop invading more and more of it over time, then.

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by Nasreddin_Hodja on Friday December 17, 2021 @02:38PM (#29597327)
> They should probably stop invading more and more of it over time, then.

They should do it for the sake of security of Europe. Ukraine is not capable of controlling "own" territory.

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by MagnumOpus on Thursday December 16, 2021 @08:51AM (#29578051)
That's falsified by Russia's ongoing metre-by-metre invasion of Georgia[0]. Not a NATO member, and won't become one either. Still Vova Putin saw some Lebensraum and decided it's his for the taking.

[0] https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/humanrights/2019/02/05/russias-new-s...

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by drran on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:28AM (#29578440)
RF has border with USA.
Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by hdjjhhvvhga on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:03AM (#29578172)
> Russia doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine

Their actions from 2014 until now show otherwise. Ukraine is not a part of NATO but Putin decided to grab Crimea, Donbas, and keep the military activity for over 5 years in order to destabilize the country.

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by abcd_f on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:14AM (#29578287)
Don’t misquote.

Current conflict is rooted exactly in Ukraine trying to aligning itself with the West. It would’ve been the EU first, Nato second for them. That would’ve created a massive headache for Russia, including the loss of its only warm port, hence the annexation and the invasion. And now Ukraine is in limbo, because the EU won’t touch it with a wooden pole while it is in an active conflict.

Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by drran on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:39AM (#29578545)
Current war of RF with Ukraine is about natural gas. Ukraine tried to drill natural gas near to Slovians`k by contracting Shell, to export natural gas to EU, to block RF from selling to EU. Also, Ukraine won a dispute with Romania about a natural gas field in the Black Sea. These actions threatened Gasprom plans to be $1 trillion company, so Gasprom owners started the war. Everything else is secondary.
Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by atlasunshrugged on Thursday December 16, 2021 @09:27AM (#29578417)
Yes, even if they didn't make it into the EU, Putin's loss of political cronies at the highest level of government is dangerous for him, he has talked about the end of the Soviet Union being a tragedy so I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't want to re-unite the countries, and totally agree on the ports (plus it was insanely popular domestically, at least at first to annex Crimea)
Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre... by adrr on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:37AM (#29579226)
Why invade Crimea? Ukraine has two choices now, join nato or develop nukes and ICBMs.