Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by behnamoh on Thursday December 16, 2021 @12:43AM
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My jaw (and my phone) dropped when I read the numbers. I feel like space is ruthlessly huge and these pulsars are brutally massive..
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by raffraffraff on Thursday December 16, 2021 @07:48AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TON_618
This black hole is 66 billion solar masses. Its mass is greater than that of our entire galaxy. The quasar shines with the power of 140 trillion suns. The event horizon radius is times 40 times the distance from Neptune to the Sun. Matter is getting sucked into it at 7000km/s
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by ziddoap on Thursday December 16, 2021 @11:34AM
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As with most amazing space-related things, Anton Petrov has a wonderful video talking about TON 618, using Universe Sandbox (which is quite fun to play in!) to demonstrate its size in comparison to our solar system. It helps, to an extent, to visualize just how large it is.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by pbuzbee on Thursday December 16, 2021 @12:46PM
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Small nit: I think the Wikipedia entry is saying TON 618's mass is greater than all of the stars in our galaxy (6*10^10 solar masses, according to the article), not greater than the entire mass of the galaxy (~10^12 solar masses, according to the Milky Way article).
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by cbm-vic-20 on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:57AM
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TON 618 is a quasar, which according to Wikipedia "is an extremely luminous active galactic nucleus (AGN), powered by a supermassive black hole, with mass ranging from millions to tens of billions of solar masses"
"More than a million quasars have been found".
Wild.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by naasking on Friday December 17, 2021 @10:50AM
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It's interesting how we talk about these far off things using the present tense, because technically we should replace every use of "is" in your post with "was".
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by raffraffraff on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:26AM
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True. In the case of that monster, unless it ran out of galaxies to eat, it's still there nomming. Perhaps the only thing that has changed is the size of it.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by m3kw9 on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:54AM
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This is why we need to develop very precise warp drive exit techniques. Don’t want to exit warp inside the horizon.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by krapp on Friday December 17, 2021 @10:54AM
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Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, kid.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by dotancohen on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:44AM
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Additionally, I love the challenge to language. These stars _are_ massive... but also tiny. Compare their 24 km radius to the 600,000 km radius of the sun. One of these objects would sit comfortably inside many Earth cities.
... at least for a milisecond before destroying it.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by brabel on Thursday December 16, 2021 @06:33AM
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Now imagine that 24km object, something three times bigger than the biggest mountain on Earth, spinning 44 times a second!!! Of course, we can't even begin to imagine that this huge mountain also has the mass of the whole Earth, let alone the mass of the whole solar system (it's actually even more than that).
Just completely mind blowing.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by hbrav on Thursday December 16, 2021 @11:01AM
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If you see "massive" in reference to an astronomical object, it usually means "having a lot of mass" rather than "being very big".
Not always of course, and the latter usage is more likely in less specialized news sources.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by treeman79 on Thursday December 16, 2021 @01:03AM
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And the energy lost between
Sum and Earth due to gravity waves is sufficient to power a small toaster oven.
Re:General relativity passes a range of precise tests set by...
by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @11:08PM
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To put this in perspective, our sun loses around 4 million tons per second, so it is about twice the radiation of the sun
Prof Dick Manchester from Australia's national science agency, CSIRO, illustrates: “Such fast orbital motion of compact objects like these - they are about 30% more massive than the Sun but only about 24 km across - allows us to test many different predictions of general relativity - seven in total! Apart from gravitational waves, our precision allows us to probe the effects of light propagation, such as the so-called “Shapiro delay” and light-bending. We also measure the effect of “time dilation” that makes clocks run slower in gravitational fields. We even need to take Einstein's famous equation E = mc2 into account when considering the effect of the electromagnetic radiation emitted by the fast-spinning pulsar on the orbital motion. This radiation corresponds to a mass loss of 8 million tonnes per second! While this seems a lot, it is only a tiny fraction - 3 parts in a thousand billion billion(!) - of the mass of the pulsar per second.”
It’s so beautiful that these things are just existing out there with such intensity that we would die instantly if we tried to see it.