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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by locallost on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:28PM (#29568968)
I think that's less problematic as you can't infect someone with cancer if you have it. But my guess is you are right. Although I will say that suspicious people are occasionally right. Trusting science has a proven track record, but it doesn't have a 100% shooting percentage, so I would be ok with not having a debate there.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by thatguy0900 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:39PM (#29569108)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_facial_tumour_disease

You can't infect anyone yet, at least

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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by stavros on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:46PM (#29569185)
Sure you can, HPV is infectious and causes cervical cancer.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:30PM (#29571232)
It can* cause cancer.

Some estimate up to 99% of cervical cancer cases are caused by HPV, but having HPV causes has a lifetime cancer risk of 0.6%.

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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by mike00632 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:38PM (#29571325)
The point is that we currently have a vaccine that eradicates those types of cancers but we have very low numbers of people willing to take the vaccine because of cultural hesitancy
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @04:00PM (#29571563)
I would quibble with your definition of "very low", given that the number is >50% in the US.

I agree we have a preventative treatment for a cancer and not everyone takes it. What conclusions do you draw from this point as it relates to this thread (or in general)?

Personally, I'm surprised that uptake is so fast for a relatively new and elective treatment. Even moreso when considering that it addresses a rare disease that effects people many decades later.

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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by mike00632 on Friday December 17, 2021 @03:30PM (#29597942)
Do you have a source for that? Because my understanding is that even in young people (the original CDC target for the vaccine), the vaccination rate is under 50% in the US.

https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/partners/outreach-hcp/hpv-coverage.h....

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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by s1artibartfast on Sunday December 19, 2021 @04:41PM (#29618702)
Here is a more recent link from the CDC that puts it at 75% started and 58% complete for adolescents.[1]

This isn't surprising because the CDC shows adoption going up a few percent per year. This year over year increase is more or less what you would expect given we are still in the adoption phase of this new medicine.[2] Eventually this increase will stall out with some people refusing to use it, but we aren't there yet.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035a1.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db354.htm

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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by mike00632 on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @02:23AM (#29634893)
"for adolescents" is an important qualifier. Seems like the eligible population is still way under 50%.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by locallost on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:52PM (#29569259)
But that's a virus that can cause cancer. You could theoretically get a cancer vaccine and still transmit HPV if you have it.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by throwawayboise on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:47PM (#29570041)
You can transmit it to those you have sex with. That's a pretty narrow means of transmission, and one that is already a vector for a variety of other diseases.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by stavros on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:55PM (#29569302)
Hmm, what do you mean? Vaccines generally protect you from the disease more than they protect unvaccinated others from you transmitting it.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by locallost on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:29PM (#29569752)
That you still can't infect someone with cancer. But it's not so important.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by mrfusion on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:07PM (#29570956)
You’re right. If science was never questioned, you would still be drinking cocaine, giving your kids cough syrup laced with heroin, spraying people with DDT, and smoking the cigarette brand your doctor recommended.
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Re:Research finds immune system responds to mRNA treatment f... by mike00632 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:36PM (#29571308)
"Science" isn't an authority figure saying what they think is best or a drunk person re-posting misinformation on Facebook. That's the anti-vaxx'ers.
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