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Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by armchairhacker on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @04:58AM (#29563896)
There are 2 "types" of depression: situational and physical.

- Situational: you force yourself to do things, you feel better and break out of the cycle

- Physical: you force yourself to do things, you don't feel anything but suffering. You don't get endorphins from exercise, you don't get serotonin from going to events and hanging out and achieving things. Depression is usually anhedonia which is a loss of feeling - whatever happens you're completely emotionless

Depression creates a feedback loop: not doing things makes you depressed, depression makes you not do things. So sometimes you are just lazy and need to start doing stuff. But sometimes it's a physical depression which caused you to stop doing things, and just doing things again won't make you not depressed. That's why I generally suggest starting and trying things, to see if they have any effect, but don't push it otherwise.

Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by coldtea on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:05AM (#29564325)
>Physical: you force yourself to do things, you don't feel anything but suffering

Not necessarily. There are physical changes when you exercize which also help with a physically-induced depression. The same is true for diet.

Just because it's psysical as opposed to situational doesn't mean it's just up to drugs and drugs alone to cure it.

Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by avgcorrection on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @07:27AM (#29565047)
What are you even saying? It doesn’t change anything but yet it does in fact change something?
Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by coldtea on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:10PM (#29570298)
No, that's what you're saying - I'm not sure where your rephrasing comes from, as it doesn't correspond to anything I've written above.

I'm explicitly saying "it" [that is, forcing yourself to do things, like get in the sun, exercize, sleep less, better diet, etc.] does change something psysiologically, and does help, even in cases of non-situational depression.

The grandparent comment claimed that this helps only in cases of situational depression.

Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by avgcorrection on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:22PM (#29570427)
In other words, don’t believe your lying self.
Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by inter_netuser on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:51AM (#29565888)
exercise does not work for endogenous depression.

at times even things like morphine have been tried.

Re:Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy ... by inter_netuser on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @05:27AM (#29564060)